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#21
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Joined APC: Jan 2013
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Another day, another alienating comment from a disgruntled NetNets employee. Do some critical thinking, is it really different negotiating now, than it was then? I'll remind you (because so many 10+ year NJA pilots seem to forget) that new hires, although insignificant, stupid, and meaningless, still have the ability to read, so they might have some knowledge on how some of these large companies worked even before they started working here.
#23
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2008
Position: Upright
Posts: 601
Another day, another alienating comment from a disgruntled NetNets employee. Do some critical thinking, is it really different negotiating now, than it was then? I'll remind you (because so many 10+ year NJA pilots seem to forget) that new hires, although insignificant, stupid, and meaningless, still have the ability to read, so they might have some knowledge on how some of these large companies worked even before they started working here.
Yes. It is different. In the past we were negotiating with leadership that had vision. Now, not so much. It's a different adversary, one that we can't fully identify, or identify with at all.
#24
Another day, another alienating comment from a disgruntled NetNets employee. Do some critical thinking, is it really different negotiating now, than it was then? I'll remind you (because so many 10+ year NJA pilots seem to forget) that new hires, although insignificant, stupid, and meaningless, still have the ability to read, so they might have some knowledge on how some of these large companies worked even before they started working here.
RTS ran a good ship. Sure we had contract stuff going on with him too, but we always knew he loved NJA and he had vision for it. So even in negotiations, we knew that pushing would bring something better, and he knew it too. It was just the process. These days, not so much.
Nobody is saying you don't matter or anything, but just don't be the newlywed giving marriage advice.
#25
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Joined APC: Dec 2008
Position: Upright
Posts: 601
Don't take it too personally. All he means is that as newhires, your only experiences here are from hearsay and what you can read. So yes, it is that different than before. If you were here in the good days, and then now, you'd understand.
RTS ran a good ship. Sure we had contract stuff going on with him too, but we always knew he loved NJA and he had vision for it. So even in negotiations, we knew that pushing would bring something better, and he knew it too. It was just the process. These days, not so much.
Nobody is saying you don't matter or anything, but just don't be the newlywed giving marriage advice.
RTS ran a good ship. Sure we had contract stuff going on with him too, but we always knew he loved NJA and he had vision for it. So even in negotiations, we knew that pushing would bring something better, and he knew it too. It was just the process. These days, not so much.
Nobody is saying you don't matter or anything, but just don't be the newlywed giving marriage advice.
This is pretty much it, added with the fact we still don't know who's actually in charge (other than WB). Jet. I'm glad you're happy here but realize at the same time we have a lot of work to do and aren't scared to do the heavy lifting. We have plenty here that are too cowardly to walk the walk and SHOULD know better.
Looking forward to walking with you when you're off probation. Til then I'll gladly do that part of the lifting.
#26
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,222
New corporate jet smell, free food, and fancy company phone wore off quickly
#27
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Posts: 357
#28
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: C47 PIC/747-400 SIC
Posts: 2,100
Speak for yourself, I think the place has potential but by all means leave if you are unhappy, everybody is hiring, Bon voyage !!! : )
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