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Old 10-16-2015, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by WienPilot View Post
Just a guess at this point, but with a 20% raise a 10-year PIC would be around $170k gross (7/7) with the possibility of making $200k+ gross on the higher productivity schedules. If there is decent COLA, the same or better 401k and health insurance after a lot of initial complaining I think it would pass easy. With 2005 and 2007 it was rare to find anyone who would admit voting yes, but both TA's passed by significant/overwhelming margins.
20% only gets a 10yr PIC to $143k -- that's barely FO pay at less financially stable companies who perform a lot less work than we do.

20% only brings a 14-year PIC to $164k

Working the "Suicide 76" schedule would get that 14 yr PIC to $200k, but he/she would have to work consecutive 21-day months to do it..... No thanks.

It will never pass.

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Old 10-16-2015, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by XRated View Post
Hate to say it, a buddy of mine is at recurrent, he heard the same numbers from Pedro's mouth. So there you go. Guess if it gets turned down, negotiators will have get back in and get some cash.
I got Pedro's email,so did you, wait and chill, we will get the real numbers next week, all the speculation from buddies, barbers, and van drivers, is just FUD till then.
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Old 10-17-2015, 07:11 AM
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Ago, here is the deal. I am taking a dump next to Pedro at the union office and I could hear him texting. So, I listen....and listen good. I can hear the unique sounds that each strike of the iPhone keypad make. Using my past military spy experience, I starting taking mental note of the key strokes. After a few minutes, I determined that he was texting the entire document...all 500 pages of it. All I can say folks is....this thing will be epic! Based on this knowledge, I ran to the nearest Toyota dealership and put a down payment on a sweet new pimped out Yaris...in Red of course and even added mud flaps! (because I am a baller) BOOM!! License plate will say NJA PILT.

In a related note, I got up to wipe and while checking my work, noticed the face of Jordan Hansell in the swipe. Dropped the paper in the toilet and flipped it off as it swirled the drain of obscurity. Good-bye Jordan...good-bye.

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Old 10-17-2015, 09:09 AM
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Ago, here is the deal. I am taking a dump next to Pedro at the union office and I could hear him texting. So, I listen....and listen good. I can hear the unique sounds that each strike of the iPhone keypad make. Using my past military spy experience, I starting taking mental note of the key strokes. After a few minutes, I determined that he was texting the entire document...all 500 pages of it. All I can say folks is....this thing will be epic! Based on this knowledge, I ran to the nearest Toyota dealership and put a down payment on a sweet new pimped out Yaris...in Red of course and even added mud flaps! (because I am a baller) BOOM!! License plate will say NJA PILT.

In a related note, I got up to wipe and while checking my work, noticed the face of Jordan Hansell in the swipe. Dropped the paper in the toilet and flipped it off as it swirled the drain of obscurity. Good-bye Jordan...good-bye.


That's big stuff bro. Don't they charge extra for the black stripes?
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Old 10-17-2015, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Junglejett View Post
Ago, here is the deal. I am taking a dump next to Pedro at the union office and I could hear him texting. So, I listen....and listen good. I can hear the unique sounds that each strike of the iPhone keypad make. Using my past military spy experience, I starting taking mental note of the key strokes. After a few minutes, I determined that he was texting the entire document...all 500 pages of it. All I can say folks is....this thing will be epic! Based on this knowledge, I ran to the nearest Toyota dealership and put a down payment on a sweet new pimped out Yaris...in Red of course and even added mud flaps! (because I am a baller) BOOM!! License plate will say NJA PILT.

In a related note, I got up to wipe and while checking my work, noticed the face of Jordan Hansell in the swipe. Dropped the paper in the toilet and flipped it off as it swirled the drain of obscurity. Good-bye Jordan...good-bye.

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Old 10-17-2015, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by jetlag7 View Post
20% only gets a 10yr PIC to $143k -- that's barely FO pay at less financially stable companies who perform a lot less work than we do.
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Who is paying this much....for FO's besides major airline and cargo?
Don't get me wrong, we are worth ALL we can get....but I haven't heard those numbers...yet
Sign me up.
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Old 10-17-2015, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Vital Signs View Post
Who is paying this much....for FO's besides major airline and cargo?
Don't get me wrong, we are worth ALL we can get....but I haven't heard those numbers...yet
Sign me up.
I took a paycut as did many of my classmates to come here.
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Old 10-17-2015, 02:00 PM
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I was not talking about paycuts, i was commenting on FO's making 143k.
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Old 10-18-2015, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Vital Signs View Post
Who is paying this much....for FO's besides major airline and cargo?
Don't get me wrong, we are worth ALL we can get....but I haven't heard those numbers...yet
Sign me up.
You just answered your own question.

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Old 10-18-2015, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jetlag7 View Post
You just answered your own question.

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Then I hope NJ pilots can achieve airline pay since thats what you are referring to.
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