Frontier Negotiations Discussion
05-22-2018, 03:31 PM
#1741
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Originally Posted by Yabadaba
I'm assuming this is a joke. We don't need a bunch of pilots firing off emails to the government because they are frustrated at this point. Just follow what the union asked us to do... wait.
Or, as a last resort you could volunteer for the union!
05-22-2018, 05:16 PM
#1742
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Originally Posted by Yabadaba
I'm assuming this is a joke. We don't need a bunch of pilots firing off emails to the government because they are frustrated at this point. Just follow what the union asked us to do... wait.
I seem to remember way back in the early 70’s jr high govt class about government checks and balances.......
05-22-2018, 06:38 PM
#1743
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Originally Posted by ReserveCA
I seem to remember way back in the early 70’s jr high govt class about government checks and balances.......
05-22-2018, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Yabadaba
I get you... but I don't think anyone on the NMB would expedite a decision in our favor of they got an email from the GAO. ALPA knows what they are doing. Status quo bro.
Keep your powder dry..........haven’t even entered the cool off period yet.
05-22-2018, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Yabadaba
I get you... but I don't think anyone on the NMB would expedite a decision in our favor of they got an email from the GAO. ALPA knows what they are doing. Status quo bro.
05-22-2018, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by CantStayAway
Exactly right. The opposite is true. If the NMB feels that they’re taking heat because of us, our pilots will pay the price. It’s happened before.
05-22-2018, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by kspilot
I'm curious. When has that happened before?
05-24-2018, 09:52 AM
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Interesting note posted by a Jet Blue pilot not too long ago about their management...
"BJ's business model relies on shortstaffing and shortchanging. It exploits legal frameworks and psychology.
The legal framework is the FOM, Bluebook, and FSM. It defines how they will exploit you to compensate for the lack of proper staffing.
The psychological framework is "culture", "juicers", and your natural desire to do an excellent job. I previously provided a link to a research paper
source: http://faculty.haas.berkeley.edu/cha...ialControl.pdf
Juicers are the tools (useful idiots) of this management mechanism of control.
It all relies on your natural ego to want to do a good job. It is deep within each of us. This is not a bad thing - quite the contrary. We should all strive to excel as servant leaders and employees, however, the company is exploiting our good will while not adequately compensating and respecting us.
They have developed a control mechanism whereby they staff workgroups at less than 100%. People want to do a good job so they will jump higher because it is in their nature, in their work ethic, to excel. For those that don't, there are legal mechanisms to pacify and control. Only people at the top benefit with ridiculously high paychecks while the rest of us beg for table scraps.
Let us not be enablers.
Let us not subsidize their exploitative model.
These are not honorable people."
Sound familiar?
https://www.denverpost.com/2015/09/2...ne-in-the-u-s/
https://marketrealist.com/2017/04/fr...ame-profitable
"BJ's business model relies on shortstaffing and shortchanging. It exploits legal frameworks and psychology.
The legal framework is the FOM, Bluebook, and FSM. It defines how they will exploit you to compensate for the lack of proper staffing.
The psychological framework is "culture", "juicers", and your natural desire to do an excellent job. I previously provided a link to a research paper
source: http://faculty.haas.berkeley.edu/cha...ialControl.pdf
Juicers are the tools (useful idiots) of this management mechanism of control.
It all relies on your natural ego to want to do a good job. It is deep within each of us. This is not a bad thing - quite the contrary. We should all strive to excel as servant leaders and employees, however, the company is exploiting our good will while not adequately compensating and respecting us.
They have developed a control mechanism whereby they staff workgroups at less than 100%. People want to do a good job so they will jump higher because it is in their nature, in their work ethic, to excel. For those that don't, there are legal mechanisms to pacify and control. Only people at the top benefit with ridiculously high paychecks while the rest of us beg for table scraps.
Let us not be enablers.
Let us not subsidize their exploitative model.
These are not honorable people."
Sound familiar?
https://www.denverpost.com/2015/09/2...ne-in-the-u-s/
https://marketrealist.com/2017/04/fr...ame-profitable
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