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Old 06-06-2018, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by PulledBreaker View Post
It's in the back of the CBA. LOA 65 stopped us from adding trips in open time after 930a the day before the pairing. Giving the company 7 days notice, we can cancel that LOA and go back to being able to add trips in Flica up to 2 hours prior to show time.
I was unaware that we could unilaterally cancel a LOA
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Old 06-06-2018, 08:15 AM
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LOA 65 doesn't stop us from adding after 930 the day prior it allows us to. So when its pulled that ends which is a good thing (now vja and ja process kicks in). If you read it either side can withdraw with seven days written notice.
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Old 06-06-2018, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by RustyChain View Post
I was unaware that we could unilaterally cancel a LOA
You can't unless its specifically worded in the language, which LOA 65 has.
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Old 06-06-2018, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker View Post
LOA 65 doesn't stop us from adding after 930 the day prior it allows us to. So when its pulled that ends which is a good thing (now vja and ja process kicks in). If you read it either side can withdraw with seven days written notice.
Well I learned something.
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Old 06-06-2018, 12:06 PM
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Ok
Indigo will NEVER offer anything close to industry average...
We (hopefully) will NEVER agree to anything less...

So the NMB must know that if they offer a proffer it will be strike time in 30 days

What now ..... eat the $hit sandwich of a bankruptcy CBA indefinitely?
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Old 06-06-2018, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by PulledBreaker View Post
It's in the back of the CBA. LOA 65 stopped us from adding trips in open time after 930a the day before the pairing. Giving the company 7 days notice, we can cancel that LOA and go back to being able to add trips in Flica up to 2 hours prior to show time.
Ah, copy. For some reason I was thinking LOA 67 and was wondering what that had to do with scheduling....
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Old 06-06-2018, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by dracir1 View Post
Ah, copy. For some reason I was thinking LOA 67 and was wondering what that had to do with scheduling....
As long as you realize thats not how LOA 65 works. right now you can pick up after 930 LDT the day prior "at crew schedualings discretion". When LOA 65 goes away you won't be able to and crew scheduling will actually have to do their job and start with the VJA process (after res assignments). The intent of LOA 65 was never for pilots or crew schedulers to use to circumnavigate the VJA/JA process which is what its doing now. Thats the problem.
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Ding ding ding!!!
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Old 06-07-2018, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker View Post
As long as you realize thats not how LOA 65 works. right now you can pick up after 930 LDT the day prior "at crew schedualings discretion". When LOA 65 goes away you won't be able to and crew scheduling will actually have to do their job and start with the VJA process (after res assignments). The intent of LOA 65 was never for pilots or crew schedulers to use to circumnavigate the VJA/JA process which is what its doing now. Thats the problem.
Will LOA 65 go away? I mean prior to a new contract? This would be huge leverage if we could legally force the company to follow the VJA/JA process.
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Old 06-07-2018, 08:02 PM
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Will LOA 65 go away? I mean prior to a new contract? This would be huge leverage if we could legally force the company to follow the VJA/JA process.
Not really. Huge leverage would come from canceled flights due to lack of crew. If they follow the VJA/JA process people will still pick it up, but they’ll just make more with the override for VJA/JA.
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