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Old 06-11-2018, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Powderkeg View Post
Nice first post, Barry.
Indeed!!...
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Old 06-11-2018, 03:13 PM
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No. Absolutely do not do this. Unless you're itching for a TRO against us, this is a terrible idea.
TRO seemed to get spirit a contract.
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Old 06-11-2018, 03:16 PM
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TRO seemed to get spirit a contract.
TRO’s never stops it, just delays it. Just what you want, isn’t it? Every extra month we delay is that much more going to the Caymans.

Wow, pressure must be building. Management trolls are coming out thick.
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Old 06-11-2018, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Ohreallynow View Post
TRO seemed to get spirit a contract.
A contract worth significantly less in terms of overall value for the pilot group than they'd have gotten without a TRO against them. Plus PBS. If you're into that sort of thing.
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Old 06-11-2018, 03:32 PM
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How do we know these people picking up open time are not flying these two day trips for 40 hours credit then dropping two 4 days back into open time to have more days off? That would create a nice snowball for scheduling! Let people do whatever they want. It’s all good. As for the rest of us, be patient and let the nmb do what they do best. Waste time thinking about what to do, release us or more mediation. Don’t give them another thing to think about. (Issuing a TRO) They can’t handle both. They work for the government and do one thing at a time.
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Old 06-11-2018, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by wt93205 View Post
How do we know these people picking up open time are not flying these two day trips for 40 hours credit then dropping two 4 days back into open time to have more days off? That would create a nice snowball for scheduling! Let people do whatever they want. It’s all good. As for the rest of us, be patient and let the nmb do what they do best. Waste time thinking about what to do, release us or more mediation. Don’t give them another thing to think about. (Issuing a TRO) They can’t handle both. They work for the government and do one thing at a time.
This times a million.
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Old 06-11-2018, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by wt93205 View Post
How do we know these people picking up open time are not flying these two day trips for 40 hours credit then dropping two 4 days back into open time to have more days off? That would create a nice snowball for scheduling! Let people do whatever they want. It’s all good. As for the rest of us, be patient and let the nmb do what they do best. Waste time thinking about what to do, release us or more mediation. Don’t give them another thing to think about. (Issuing a TRO) They can’t handle both. They work for the government and do one thing at a time.
Keep fixing the problems there are no problems. The only problem is a lack of a new CBA. Make them fix that.
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Old 06-11-2018, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by wt93205 View Post
How do we know these people picking up open time are not flying these two day trips for 40 hours credit then dropping two 4 days back into open time to have more days off? That would create a nice snowball for scheduling! Let people do whatever they want. It’s all good. As for the rest of us, be patient and let the nmb do what they do best. Waste time thinking about what to do, release us or more mediation. Don’t give them another thing to think about. (Issuing a TRO) They can’t handle both. They work for the government and do one thing at a time.
We know they aren’t dropping other flying because there is little to no change in open time even after dozens of incentivized trips are picked up daily. People can do whatever they want, but I do log in daily to see who goes the extra mile out of my own personal curiousity. Anyone that does knows who the All-Stars are. Let me stress that I’ll never infringe on their contractual right to do this flying or tell others to do so.

As for me, my alerts are off as is my phone. I’ve noticed I’m under a lot less stress not running to Flica anymore when my phone buzzes to check what’s dropped into OT. What’s the point? I was always chasing down some money I didn’t need anyway. I’m fortunate to be in that position, and understand that not everyone can say the same. Looking forward to spending more time with the family.

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Old 06-11-2018, 05:17 PM
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It's amazing as I sit here, flying my line, supporting my family, and hoping for a better contract, to watch a handful of my fellow co-workers pick up these incentivised trips. It must be really easy for them to snag these since I'm one less pilot who is competing against them (ie tripping over my own d!ck to call scheduling). I'm making a personal choice to not give my days off away.

Good on ya my fellow brothers! I'm sure you need the money more than the rest of us. I'll just keep inching by on our current wages as you rake in your 150 hours months. Unity!
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Old 06-11-2018, 05:28 PM
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Basically everything that's been said on here for the last few pages needs to stop.

We need to not give the company any evidence of a work action, even if it's just talk of not totally maintaining the status quo. We have come too far, and we are too close to being released to Jack it up now!

Just keep doing what you've always done. I know you all are.
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