Frontier Negotiations Discussion
11-03-2018, 01:27 PM
#2841
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Joined APC: Apr 2017
Posts: 464
Originally Posted by knm1229
Does anyone have a copy of the pay scales from our original ask? I wanted to compare them to the new ask. Thanks
0-1 184.00 1-2 196.00 2-3 209.00 3-4 216.00 4-5 221.00 5-6 226.00 6-7 231.00 7-8 236.00 8-9 238.00 9-10 241.00 10-11 243.00 11-12 245.00
First Officer
70.00 105.00 130.00 139.00 146.00 151.00 156.00 159.00 161.00 163.00 165.00 167.00
11-03-2018, 01:28 PM
#2842
Line Holder
Joined APC: Nov 2017
Posts: 68
Originally Posted by knm1229
Does anyone have a copy of the pay scales from our original ask? I wanted to compare them to the new ask. Thanks
Proposed Rates for A-320 Series – Effective April 1, 2017
Captain First Officer
0-1 184.00 70.00
1-2 196.00 105.00
2-3 209.00 130.00
3-4 216.00 139.00
4-5 221.00 146.00
5-6 226.00 151.00
6-7 231.00 156.00
7-8 236.00 159.00
8-9 238.00 161.00
9-10 241.00 163.00
10-11 243.00 165.00
11-12 245.00 167.00
11-03-2018, 01:29 PM
#2843
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Joined APC: Apr 2017
Posts: 464
Originally Posted by Missed Appch
I agree with this as well. I made it very clear that PBS is a big issue. The fact that the company wants it should be a big red flag.
I also told them that a contract subpar to JetBlue would not fly. So far, this AIP is subpar to JetBlue and they caved on PBS.
I also told them that a contract subpar to JetBlue would not fly. So far, this AIP is subpar to JetBlue and they caved on PBS.
11-03-2018, 01:30 PM
#2844
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Joined APC: Apr 2017
Posts: 464
Originally Posted by CrewRest
Proposed Rates for A-320 Series – Effective April 1, 2017
Captain First Officer
0-1 184.00 70.00
1-2 196.00 105.00
2-3 209.00 130.00
3-4 216.00 139.00
4-5 221.00 146.00
5-6 226.00 151.00
6-7 231.00 156.00
7-8 236.00 159.00
8-9 238.00 161.00
9-10 241.00 163.00
10-11 243.00 165.00
11-12 245.00 167.00
Captain First Officer
0-1 184.00 70.00
1-2 196.00 105.00
2-3 209.00 130.00
3-4 216.00 139.00
4-5 221.00 146.00
5-6 226.00 151.00
6-7 231.00 156.00
7-8 236.00 159.00
8-9 238.00 161.00
9-10 241.00 163.00
10-11 243.00 165.00
11-12 245.00 167.00
11-03-2018, 01:32 PM
#2847
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Joined APC: Nov 2012
Position: 1900D CA
Posts: 3,394
Originally Posted by knm1229
Does anyone have a copy of the pay scales from our original ask? I wanted to compare them to the new ask. Thanks
Old ask was 245CA, 167FO
New ask. 266CA, 181FO
I believe the new ask would be top of the industry... as in...ain't gonna happen
11-03-2018, 01:39 PM
#2848
Line Holder
Joined APC: Nov 2017
Posts: 68
Current asking pay rates
Effective April 1, 2018
CA FO
1 232.24 39.11
2 236.13 126.16
3 238.88 144.15
4 241.76 151.10
5 244.47 156.74
6 247.09 161.26
7 249.85 166.07
8 253.12 169.94
9 256.27 173.05
10 259.60 176.43
11 262.48 178.65
12 266.10 181.27
Effective April 1, 2018
CA FO
1 232.24 39.11
2 236.13 126.16
3 238.88 144.15
4 241.76 151.10
5 244.47 156.74
6 247.09 161.26
7 249.85 166.07
8 253.12 169.94
9 256.27 173.05
10 259.60 176.43
11 262.48 178.65
12 266.10 181.27
11-03-2018, 01:40 PM
#2850
Line Holder
Joined APC: Apr 2011
Posts: 83
The original ask/pay rates are in the special negotiations update Email dated 9/2/16.
I spent a couple hours today finding those rates, the 8/25/18 new proposal rates and ran some numbers to determine what the LOA 67 pay should be. I ran these #’s based on a very conservative pay rate increase of 10% and 15% differentials prorated to the date that was due. Although I strongly feel LOA 67 should be settled separately from section 6 negotiations and signing bonus, I don’t think that is what we will see. Just wanted to get an idea of what the actual signing bonus would be worth minus what a ball park LOA 67 value should be when the next detailed communication comes out.
I am sure it will be pennies on the dollar. We shall see??
I spent a couple hours today finding those rates, the 8/25/18 new proposal rates and ran some numbers to determine what the LOA 67 pay should be. I ran these #’s based on a very conservative pay rate increase of 10% and 15% differentials prorated to the date that was due. Although I strongly feel LOA 67 should be settled separately from section 6 negotiations and signing bonus, I don’t think that is what we will see. Just wanted to get an idea of what the actual signing bonus would be worth minus what a ball park LOA 67 value should be when the next detailed communication comes out.
I am sure it will be pennies on the dollar. We shall see??
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