Frontier Negotiations Discussion
08-30-2017, 03:51 AM
#301
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Posts: 142
Originally Posted by phoenix 23684
That's because is not that easy to get the call. I guarantee you there are a ton of pilots with apps out there. Granted we are all working for an industry standard but let's not kid our selves. We are no United/Delta/AA/SWA.
08-30-2017, 08:17 AM
#302
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 318
Anyone think the no update on the last negotiations session is a little suspicious? I figured if it was unproductive they would blast it out to us while the strike vote is open. Must've been a little productive and they don't want to sway guys on the fence. Not that I've met a single pilot that wasn't voting for the strike, just thought it was weird.
08-30-2017, 08:29 AM
#303
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Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 617
Originally Posted by Blueskies67
Anyone think the no update on the last negotiations session is a little suspicious? I figured if it was unproductive they would blast it out to us while the strike vote is open. Must've been a little productive and they don't want to sway guys on the fence. Not that I've met a single pilot that wasn't voting for the strike, just thought it was weird.
1. We will not see a new contract until released to a cooling off period.
2. Release becomes less likely as long as progress is made at the table.
The company knows this and I believe will give us little things every once in a while to help drag this out longer. If progress was made this past week, expect more mediation sessions in October, January, and beyond. If we're lucky they may schedule in November and December but with holidays it's less likely.
08-30-2017, 08:54 AM
#304
Hold my beer, watch this.
Joined APC: Aug 2012
Position: Airbus Pilot
Posts: 246
Originally Posted by azcz10
Please share details on why Frontier pilots are "no United/Delta/AA/SWA". How is what we do different?
08-30-2017, 12:16 PM
#305
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 318
Originally Posted by CantStayAway
I would actually be more upset to see a little progress than the company just completely stonewalling. Why?
1. We will not see a new contract until released to a cooling off period.
2. Release becomes less likely as long as progress is made at the table.
The company knows this and I believe will give us little things every once in a while to help drag this out longer. If progress was made this past week, expect more mediation sessions in October, January, and beyond. If we're lucky they may schedule in November and December but with holidays it's less likely.
1. We will not see a new contract until released to a cooling off period.
2. Release becomes less likely as long as progress is made at the table.
The company knows this and I believe will give us little things every once in a while to help drag this out longer. If progress was made this past week, expect more mediation sessions in October, January, and beyond. If we're lucky they may schedule in November and December but with holidays it's less likely.
08-30-2017, 12:28 PM
#306
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Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 497
Originally Posted by wt93205
Exactly. We may not be as big but we make more money percentage wise. We deserve the same pay.
08-30-2017, 01:27 PM
#307
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Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 297
That's interesting to think about...God forbid there's a "claim" does the company say to the family members, " I'm sorry for your loss but since we are a ULCC, we cannot pay you what you think your loved one was worth." If you wanted a bigger payoff in case something tragic happened, you should've flown on DAL, AA, SWA, UAL.
08-30-2017, 02:47 PM
#309
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Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 163
Originally Posted by azcz10
Please share details on why Frontier pilots are "no United/Delta/AA/SWA". How is what we do different?
08-30-2017, 03:21 PM
#310
Hold my beer, watch this.
Joined APC: Aug 2012
Position: Airbus Pilot
Posts: 246
Originally Posted by Beans
Ok seriously?!!! He understands that at Frontier the applicant pool and competive mins are worlds apart as compared to UA,DL and AA. He makes a point everyone in the industry knows. A lot of guys/gals have gone to Frontier because they know they are not competitive at the majors. Thats not to say that all at Frontier are not competitive but what is competitive to get hired is the difference.
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