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12-05-2018, 06:17 PM

#3971

V1 McFlyerson

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Originally Posted by Pizza Pilot

Lol, you haven’t even seen the thing yet

I see right in the email where they say the rates are market-rate. They're not.

12-05-2018, 06:23 PM

#3972

V1 McFlyerson

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I want to be SO wrong that I can never post on APC again...

I'll call it like I see it though. The rates are SO bad there is no coming back. The previously AIP'd LTD is SO bad, there is no coming back. Take the rates and LTD and mix in some PBS and I don't see how it's even possible.

12-05-2018, 06:51 PM

#3973

ReserveCA

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Originally Posted by Nacho Libre

well 4pm tomorrow guys

Bwahaaaa
Glitter in the turd Love it .......

The only chance was to stop it at the MEC level.....

12-05-2018, 07:21 PM

#3974

ToddChavez

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So you no voters are basically saying the whole MEC and NC are conspiring against the entire group? To what extent?

12-05-2018, 07:31 PM

#3975

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ToddChavez

So you no voters are basically saying the whole MEC and NC are conspiring against the entire group? To what extent?

Yeah 6-0 says something. Looking forward to reading it.

12-05-2018, 07:31 PM

#3976

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ToddChavez

So you no voters are basically saying the whole MEC and NC are conspiring against the entire group? To what extent?

They are now, aren’t they? Now that they’ve failed to produce an agreement that exceeds the bottom of the industry, of course they’re going to roll this thing in powdered sugar, drop it in the deep fryer, and pretend like it’s something other than a sh1t sandwich on a stick.

We didn’t even pattern bargain. In fact, all signs point to this being below Spirit’s contract. Embarrassing.

12-05-2018, 08:00 PM

#3977

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Originally Posted by CGLimits

I think Spirit’s is 3 hour before departure time, which is what we have, expressed differently.
Also, I believe their international override applies only for certain flying in South America. I don’t think they have an override for just flying to Cancun.

Just trying to understand...

Quote:

Frontier Airline Pilots Association

S. RESERVE - SHORT CALL

1. Short Call Reserves must be able to report within 2 hours of notification. In the event that less than 2 hours' of notification is given, the Pilot shall be expected to report as soon as possible.

Not trying to be an F9 TA-hole but I don’t think implying there is a 3 hour call out at Frontier is doing anyone any favors. Man, Spirit gets all the goodies.

12-05-2018, 08:09 PM

#3978

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Originally Posted by V1 McFlyerson

Man, Spirit gets all the goodies.

I love late night APC!! All the comparisons to the Spirit TA and how crap it is if we get that, but damned if they don’t get all the goodies! 🙄

Keep on keepin on APC!

12-05-2018, 08:12 PM

#3979

FlyingR6

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ReserveCA

The only chance was to stop it at the MEC level.....

So now, if we vote no, it's going to be even further out because we'll have to recall the MEC.

I'm not a yes or no voter yet because I haven't read the whole thing, but just remember that when you using the calculator the BK gave us.

I honestly cant believe one or two didnt vote no....

12-05-2018, 08:14 PM

#3980

FlyingR6

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WaterRooster

I love late night APC!! All the comparisons to the Spirit TA and how crap it is if we get that, but damned if they don’t get all the goodies! 🙄

Keep on keepin on APC!

Gimme dem 4 days off in a row. You guys are swimming in cash.