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Old 12-05-2018, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by WaterRooster View Post
I love late night APC!! All the comparisons to the Spirit TA and how crap it is if we get that, but damned if they don’t get all the goodies! 🙄

Keep on keepin on APC!
It’s called facetiousness. I guess you don’t understand the comparison between NK’s year old contract and the smelly thing we’re getting stuck with that appears worse than Spirit’s contract? And how it doesn’t follow pattern bargaining? And how it’s an embarrassment?

It looks like Spirit did get the goodies, no? So far? You don’t understand that it appears that we didn’t EVEN “get that?”
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Old 12-05-2018, 08:21 PM
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I really hope I get the opportunity to hand in my badge to this place because I'm leaving for a legacy. I cant wait for the "but we got a new contract" and "you'll upgrade soon" lines from the CPO.

This place is nothing more but a fancy regional with 320s... and it never will be.
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Old 12-05-2018, 08:21 PM
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So now, if we vote no, it's going to be even further out because we'll have to recall the MEC.

I'm not a yes or no voter yet because I haven't read the whole thing, but just remember that when you using the calculator the BK gave us.

I honestly cant believe one or two didnt vote no....

I believe voting by the MEC was a formality. They all have been discussing this since before the framework agreement. If you thought it wasn't going to be unanimous, you may be a little naive. That being said, I sincerely believe that they worked hard and brought back they best deal they thought available. We all know that we will not be released for self help with the current NMB members.
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Old 12-05-2018, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by RustyChain View Post
I believe voting by the MEC was a formality. They all have been discussing this since before the framework agreement. If you thought it wasn't going to be unanimous, you may be a little naive. That being said, I sincerely believe that they worked hard and brought back they best deal they thought available. We all know that we will not be released for self help with the current NMB members.
Call me naive... I've been called worse. You know, I can agree with that. The NMB has officially shown they DGAF about us. They are convinced we are NK. In their eyes were f'in dumb for not taking this.
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Old 12-05-2018, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by V1 McFlyerson View Post
It’s called facetiousness. I guess you don’t understand the comparison between NK’s year old contract and the smelly thing we’re getting stuck with that appears worse than Spirit’s contract? And how it doesn’t follow pattern bargaining? And how it’s an embarrassment?

It looks like Spirit did get the goodies, no? So far? You don’t understand that it appears that we didn’t EVEN “get that?”
Bro...you should totally go to Spirit...please! If not...let’s have this discussion on the Frontier Facebook page.
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Old 12-05-2018, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by V1 McFlyerson View Post
It’s called facetiousness. I guess you don’t understand the comparison between NK’s year old contract and the smelly thing we’re getting stuck with that appears worse than Spirit’s contract? And how it doesn’t follow pattern bargaining? And how it’s an embarrassment?

It looks like Spirit did get the goodies, no? So far? You don’t understand that it appears that we didn’t EVEN “get that?”
Or maybe I’m trolling you because you are easily worked up....

ULCC that’s who you fly for. Not Delta, Not United. Heck you don’t even fly for the likes of Alaska or Jet Blue. You are a ULCC. That IS a different class of airline.

I’m not saying the deal is good, but you have to at least know where you start first.
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Old 12-05-2018, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by WaterRooster View Post
Or maybe I’m trolling you because you are easily worked up....

ULCC that’s who you fly for. Not Delta, Not United. Heck you don’t even fly for the likes of Alaska or Jet Blue. You are a ULCC. That IS a different class of airline.

I’m not saying the deal is good, but you have to at least know where you start first.
Before someone coined the ULCC term, there was the LCC title. Southwest Airlines championed that phrase with their low fares. They did this while paying their employees industry leading wages and benefits. SWA pilots NEGOTIATED that while being an LCC.

And by the way, our management receives compensation on par with the legacies. Barry Biffle receives SWA equivalent compensation. Doesn't he work for an ULCC?
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Old 12-05-2018, 09:19 PM
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Time to vote yes. More money less problems! See you boys and girls in the pattern!
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Old 12-05-2018, 09:57 PM
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Barry Biffle receives SWA equivalent compensation. Doesn't he work for an ULCC?
False. He does not.
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Old 12-05-2018, 10:32 PM
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False. He does not.
5.7 million in 2016 says he does. And that was during those horrible “challenging economic times”

And what’s his % stake in the company?

All ya gotta do is look at the S-1 filing....
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