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Old 12-06-2018, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian View Post
FWIW, according to the arbi-tra(i)tor you are wrong: Alaska pilots deserve less pay then DL pilots because they lack the size and international route structure to be up there with the "real" companies.
Yet Alaska pay is closer to Delta than to our TA... and they’re gonna renegotiate prior to our next round.

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Old 12-06-2018, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Mugatu View Post
Stock options he never received? Ha!

Unless a person is fired with cause, when does that ever happen?
I'm not going to sit here and explain stock option awards to you. Google it, or be an ignoramus, your call.
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Old 12-06-2018, 11:22 AM
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The TA language is on frontier.alpa.org.
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Old 12-06-2018, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ToddChavez View Post
I'm not going to sit here and explain stock option awards to you. Google it, or be an ignoramus, your call.
I’m fully aware how stock options work. It seems you don’t. That’s ok.

For all those interested in Biffle’s total 2016 compensation, including stock options, it’s clearly explained starting on page 117 of the S-1 filing. I’m sure the next S-1 filing will show how many more options Biffle was been awarded for 2017 and 2018 and exactly how many shares are currently vested. Can’t wait.

In summary, Biffle’s total compensation is ridiculous. Our TA is ridiculous for the opposite reason.
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Old 12-06-2018, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ReserveCA View Post
I have always stated why I’m voting no
Pay....below average
Perdiem.....below average
401k.....below average
Min day....NOT DUTY PERIOD...below average
Insurance.....same or below
Overrides....none below average
PBS.....no language concession
5yr agreement...... below average
Retro/signing/back pay.....LOA 67 BELOW AVERAGE
And
And
And......

All done
In addition to these^^^^^^^^^

Add at a glance....
Non seniority list flying......NO (all flying by seniority list pilots)
SDT.........6hr .......... NO (red eye turn TWO duty periods 10 hrs)

NO. NO. NO. NO. NO.
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Old 12-06-2018, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ToddChavez View Post
I'm not going to sit here and explain stock option awards to you. Google it, or be an ignoramus, your call.
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/analyst/091202.asp

The valuation of an option is debatable but I don’t think there’s any question that they do have a value.

If you think for a second Biffle is paid vast percentage points less than most other airline CEOs, you’re lying to yourself.

Our TA has us making a vast percentage less...
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Old 12-06-2018, 12:24 PM
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....NO....
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Old 12-06-2018, 12:35 PM
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No vacation protection changes! ha!

NO
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Old 12-06-2018, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ReserveCA View Post
In addition to these^^^^^^^^^

Add at a glance....
Non seniority list flying......NO (all flying by seniority list pilots)
SDT.........6hr .......... NO (red eye turn TWO duty periods 10 hrs)

NO. NO. NO. NO. NO.
No more picking up redeye turns for 2 sick day replacement. ....No
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Old 12-06-2018, 12:53 PM
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All this talk about "affective pay rate"
BS....... I fly 70
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