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Old 04-30-2017, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SpankysLadder View Post
Life isn't black and white. It's all shades in between. Life's not fair and it's sometimes cruel. There are a few pilots here that are suffering financially for whatever reason (sick spouse, sick child, divorce) and have fallen on hard times...and that's their business not ours. These pilots need that extra income more than you and I. they're not helping the company, they are simply trying to make a bad situation better. "Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes."
Although your estatement is very truthful, the problem is that one can always rationalize why they need to work/money more than supporting their union/fellow pilots. If money is thight for whatever reason, this is the time to try and get ahead, build that strike fund, so when the time does come, these pilots don't cross the line because they need to. It will not be forgiven then.

A strong union only works when every member supports the union. Like the Borg used to say, resistance is futile. This is one the of the reasons managements can do what they do.
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Old 04-30-2017, 06:33 PM
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Mind games or not, they know if they run lean and there will always be someone to save their bacon. There were even people who picked up VJA/JRA on Apr 19. Not working and didn't go to the picket, yet...??? What the F...??

You know who you are, and everyone else does too. Picking up every VJA in sight, out of all three domiciles no less. You are trampling your fellow pilots. Congrats on that. If you have that much free time, try to find it your self centered heart and volunteer to help the union. Until that happens, you are just as bad as them.
Thank you, ** for picking up that sweet CMH turn on 4/19 for VJA.

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Old 04-30-2017, 06:39 PM
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So be financially prepared for a strike but don't make any extra money between now and then? Would you rather have someone save now or face a decision to cross or lose their house? If you haven't noticed we are negotiating with the NMB to grant us leverage so that we can then negotiate with the company, any small job action up to that point is really just making you feel good and may even be counter productive to the negotiation with the NMB.

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Old 04-30-2017, 06:43 PM
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So be financially prepared for a strike but don't make any extra money between now and then? Would you rather have someone save now or face a decision to cross or loose their house? If you haven't noticed we are negotiating with the NMB to grant us leverage so that we can then negotiate with the company, any small job action up to that point is really just making you feel good and may even be counter productive to the negotiation with the NMB.
I think not answering your phone and bailing out the company on your day off --while your fellow pilots were in DEN-- is common sense. I really don't care most of the time... but on 4/19 show some solidarity. Sheesh.
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Old 04-30-2017, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by FlipTheDolphin View Post
Thank you, MCO FO "
Do not turn this into the spirit forum.

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Old 04-30-2017, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Salukipilot4590 View Post
Do not turn this into the spirit forum.
Maybe we need a little accountability around here. 270+ pilots from across the country were in DEN, many of them flying in, on their day off. People like "DH" think it's appropriate to capitalize on this and bail out the company for some measly VJA. Unbelievable.

And for the record you don't need to pick up VJA/JA in order to save money for a strike. If you need to do that you're doing something wrong... spend less, budget more, and maybe go speak with a financial advisor.
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Old 04-30-2017, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by FlipTheDolphin View Post
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That guy is still on probation. Union said no probies allowed at the picket. Additionally, the union said to fly to cover the flying of your brothers and sisters that were at the event.

Good job calling out a fellow pilot for doing exactly what he's been told to do by the union.

You personally owe that guy an apology.

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Old 04-30-2017, 10:51 PM
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Well, the captain who picked up the VJA is not on probation. Capt "D" is a Feb 2014 hire. He also lives just north of Denver. Disgusting.

Oh, and if people could quit sharing pictures for the Winning newsletter, that'd be great...
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Old 05-01-2017, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SpankysLadder View Post
Life isn't black and white. It's all shades in between. Life's not fair and it's sometimes cruel. There are a few pilots here that are suffering financially for whatever reason (sick spouse, sick child, divorce) and have fallen on hard times...and that's their business not ours. These pilots need that extra income more than you and I. they're not helping the company, they are simply trying to make a bad situation better. "Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes."
When you are part of a UNION, it does not matter if you have single, personal issues. Those issues should not hinder your UNION's collective goals.

I apologize for divorces, bankruptcies and sick children; picking up extra time will not heal those issues. Picking up extra time like this hinders your whole agenda as a collective bargaining entity.

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Old 05-02-2017, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by PulledBreaker View Post
That guy is still on probation. Union said no probies allowed at the picket. Additionally, the union said to fly to cover the flying of your brothers and sisters that were at the event.

Good job calling out a fellow pilot for doing exactly what he's been told to do by the union.

You personally owe that guy an apology.
Yes I agree with PulledBreaker here. To call some one out like that who did nothing wrong was classless. Do a little more reaserach before slinging mud next time. We are all in this together guys.

I think it would be wise to delete your post calling him out.
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