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grahamlax 06-27-2017 10:00 AM

Looks like 9am on the 28th daily open time bids open, according to the cba. Is that when July will show up in flica and I'll be able to submit a request? Is tomorrow at 9am only for picking up open time or can I also drop trips as well?

Trying to make plans, anyone want to pick up an 11:27 hr 2 day? Hotel deleted for security

SA 01 326 DEN-MSP 0630 0934 0204 0204 0204 0319/0304 MSP 3621
D-END: 0949L (NR 900) REPT: 2210L
SU 02 329 MSP-DEN 2255 0010 0215 0215 0215 0315/0300
D-END: 0025L T.A.F.B.: 4255 TRIP RIG: 0708
Total: 0419 0000 1127

Xdashdriver 06-27-2017 11:06 AM

You can add, drop or swap with open time starting the 28th at 9am. Drops will be subject to the DDL or DAG depending on how far out you want to drop.

If you're looking to drop that 2 day trip you posted though, it's not looking good. There are currently 18 and 23 open duty periods respectively on those days.

wt93205 06-27-2017 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by Xdashdriver (Post 2384952)
The Monthly Drop Limit (MDL) only applies to Monthly Open Time bidding. Once that period is closed, the MDL no longer applies.

The Daily Drop Limit (DDL) takes over once Daily Open Time opens on the 28th of each month. Any drops are subject to the DDL (regardless of reserve coverage) until 0930 3 days prior to the trip.

Once inside the 3 days prior, then the Drop Availability Grid (DAG) takes over. The DAG is based on reserve coverage and applies until 24 hours prior.

Once inside the 24 hour window, it's at crew scheduling's discretion.

I am impressed with your contract knowledge. Even I learn stuff from you and I thought I had read the contract...lol I printed your post out and put it in my contract. So much easier to read! Thanks!

wt93205 06-27-2017 02:12 PM

On another note related to dropping, I bid reserve and was JRA'ed into the following day and found out that if this happens to you that you can either take the JRA pay or get a vacation day for it. You have to bid in groups of 7 so it put me at 16 for the year which gives me two 7 groups and one 2 group now to slide around. So I will look for back to back trips with the 2 days when bidding a line for my vacation. This scenario is if you are on reserve.

If you are a line holder I was told you can email pilotpay and tell them what day you want off taking out a whole trip. That is the way I understand that. How sweet!

CantStayAway 06-27-2017 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by grahamlax (Post 2386071)
How do I post a trip on the trade board that starts July 1st? When and how do I submit a request to drop the trip to open time? I'm on reserve this month but have a relief line for July. I'm a newb

I can only see June under "pilot trip trades"

Daily open time and the trade board both open tomorrow at 9am domicile time. You will have a hard time dropping a trip into open time (especially near a holiday that falls in transition). The trade board will be your best bet. If you want to drop it, allow another pilot to pickup the trip without your approval.

grahamlax 06-28-2017 12:51 PM

Good amount of trading going on this morning, I was able to get rid of the trip with some cash on it.

Clearly I'm new. I submitted one pure drop request (my first request) right at 9am and it said processing for over an hour, then I submitted probably 10-15 swap with open time requests that all got denied saying picked up by xxx. Many of these swap requests got denied before the drop request got processed. Do they process drop requests differently than swap and add requests (Vis a vis first come first serve)? Is it possible all those people got requests in before I did for trip trades? Still trying to figure out why my drop request for a July 1st trip didn't get immediately denied

CantStayAway 06-28-2017 06:07 PM

Daily open time is strictly first come first served. All requests are processed in the order they're received.

Planedrive 06-29-2017 01:27 PM

What is the trick to splitting a trip? I go to daily opentime splits but when I select the trip it does not give me the option to split it.

Leslie Chow 06-29-2017 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by Planedrive (Post 2387276)
What is the trick to splitting a trip? I go to daily opentime splits but when I select the trip it does not give me the option to split it.

A trip can only be split if/when it passes through your base. Be careful splitting trips - if there is any rig on the trip, it will be dropped.

shreddykreuger 06-29-2017 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by Planedrive (Post 2387276)
What is the trick to splitting a trip? I go to daily opentime splits but when I select the trip it does not give me the option to split it.

A trip has to be in open time for 48 hrs before you can split it


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