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Ohreallynow 05-19-2018 08:29 AM

Frustrated PA
 
https://www.facebook.com/kmdonovan2/...60451554680215

OpenClimb 05-19-2018 08:46 AM

He said what we’ve all been thinking for the most recent 2-5 years.

Sometimes you just run out of things to say. We’re all really frustrated and it’s been more and more difficult to keep our frustrations in check. I know this captain and he’s a great guy and normally very mild-mannered and fairly reserved. Definitely not even in the top half if one were to create a list of most to least likely to lose his cool.

Personally, I’m not shy about sharing pure facts, but do my best not to editorialize. “We are sitting here waiting for a gate because Frontier only has one gate and it is currently occupied by another Frontier aircraft. That plane is scheduled to leave in 35 minutes.”

It’ll be interesting to see how the Company reacts as I’d expect the video to gain in popularity over the next few days.

mainlineAF 05-19-2018 09:08 AM

What an idiot. I’d fire him if i ran the show. You just don’t say that stuff no matter how frustrated you are.

whiskytango 05-19-2018 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by mainlineAF (Post 2597574)
What an idiot. I’d fire him if i ran the show. You just don’t say that stuff no matter how frustrated you are.

Wow, thanks for sharing - now scram. We could give a f@(& what you think.

Packrat 05-19-2018 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by mainlineAF (Post 2597574)
What an idiot. I’d fire him if i ran the show. You just don’t say that stuff no matter how frustrated you are.

At the very least he'll get some time off and counseling. They may even refer him to a psychologist. Seen it before at other airlines.

RustyChain 05-19-2018 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by mainlineAF (Post 2597574)
What an idiot. I’d fire him if i ran the show. You just don’t say that stuff no matter how frustrated you are.

You dont say that on the PA. Be professional. Besides, everyone already knows Frontier sucks.

cloudwarrior 05-19-2018 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by mainlineAF (Post 2597574)
What an idiot. I’d fire him if i ran the show. You just don’t say that stuff no matter how frustrated you are.

Thanks for chiming in You Tool.

The PA appeared calm and factual. He was totally honest, embarrassed, and explaining the nature & cause of the delay; or did you miss that part? :confused:

Good thing you Don’t run the show.
Go troll somewhere else, and btw, GFY.
Really, GFY.
:eek:

dracir1 05-19-2018 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by RustyChain (Post 2597620)
You dont say that on the PA. Be professional. Besides, everyone already knows Frontier sucks.

Exactly.

This is the kind of stuff that many have been referring to. Stay the course. Fly the line like you always have. No one outside of our industry cares about our contract negotiations and certainly don't care anymore now.

If I heard this over the PA and I was Joe Blow off the street, I'd probably wonder if the CA was whining like this over a parking space, what would he do if an engine blew in flight - panic? Blame the company for not paying the maintainers? Something else?

Be a PROFESSIONAL at ALL TIMES!!!!!

Silver02ex 05-19-2018 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by cloudwarrior (Post 2597625)
The PA appeared calm and factual. He was totally honest, embarrassed, and explaining the nature & cause of the delay; or did you miss that part? :confused:

No one is going to argue and say it's not true. Just because it's true doesn't make it right. I'm curious what it says in the FOM about announcements and what it should and shouldn't include.

sflpilot 05-19-2018 01:29 PM

The link is going to a facebook login. Is there any other way to watch?

NWSteeringArmer 05-19-2018 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by sflpilot (Post 2597735)
The link is going to a facebook login. Is there any other way to watch?

I’m sure you can find it on YouTube

InThisTogether 05-19-2018 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by NWSteeringArmer (Post 2597740)
I’m sure you can find it on YouTube

It's not on YouTube. Can someone paraphrase what he said?

Seneca2 05-19-2018 02:15 PM

I haven’t seen it, but can only imagine! That’s why I’ve unbundled my services just like our wonderful LFDR model. (Low Fairs Done Right) I won’t make a PA for any reason, but if Barry wants me to make PAs, then he needs to pay for that service. Like $100 more per hr to get just to industry average! Fupm Barry.

kspilot 05-19-2018 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by InThisTogether (Post 2597752)
It's not on YouTube. Can someone paraphrase what he said?

Ladies and Gentlemen, we know you have a choice in air travel and we’re sorry that you chose poorly.

ClearCreek 05-19-2018 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by Seneca2 (Post 2597756)
I haven’t seen it, but can only imagine! That’s why I’ve unbundled my services just like our wonderful LFDR model. (Low Fairs Done Right) I won’t make a PA for any reason, but if Barry wants me to make PAs, then he needs to pay for that service. Like $100 more per hr to get just to industry average! Fupm Barry.

That’s the way to go. No PA’s ever. No one gives a **** anyway.

phoenix 23684 05-19-2018 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by ClearCreek (Post 2597855)
That’s the way to go. No PA’s ever. No one gives a **** anyway.

I totally disagree. I’m a professional airline pilot and will continue to do my job with the upmost professionalism regardless of whom I work for. One of our duties as captain is to maintain the passengers informed.

V1 McFlyerson 05-19-2018 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by phoenix 23684 (Post 2597912)
I totally disagree. I’m a professional airline pilot and will continue to do my job with the upmost professionalism regardless of whom I work for. One of our duties as captain is to maintain the passengers informed.


And iron your epaulettes.

Beechnut 05-20-2018 05:40 PM

The link doesn't work anymore.


I can imagine what it said.


I can also tell you JetBlue fired a Captain for a similar stunt.

TCASTESTOK 05-20-2018 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by Beechnut (Post 2598527)
The link doesn't work anymore.


I can imagine what it said.


I can also tell you JetBlue fired a Captain for a similar stunt.


What did the JB captain do?

DrMantisTobogan 05-20-2018 06:53 PM

I’ve heard of the JB Captain who ran the APU on transcons.....

BlueBus 05-22-2018 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by DrMantisTobogan (Post 2598572)
I’ve heard of the JB Captain who ran the APU on transcons.....


Only one? :D

CaptCoolHand 05-25-2018 03:39 AM

There are two captains at JB that have done the carpet dance. One a few years ago, he was given the "chance" to publicly via video apologise and I believe kept his job. More recently we had one fired for PA exploits.

CYA gents, and be professional. Not sure how frontier is, but JB doesn't mess around with their employees and public shaming of the company.

V1 McFlyerson 05-25-2018 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand (Post 2601980)
There are two captains at JB that have done the carpet dance. One a few years ago, he was given the "chance" to publicly via video apologise and I believe kept his job. More recently we had one fired for PA exploits.

CYA gents, and be professional. Not sure how frontier is, but JB doesn't mess around with their employees and public shaming of the company.

This company is publicly shameful to everyone already.

CaptCoolHand 05-25-2018 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by V1 McFlyerson (Post 2602022)
This company is publicly shameful to everyone already.

HA! I know brotha... I hear ya.

TCASTESTOK 05-25-2018 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by DrMantisTobogan (Post 2598572)
I’ve heard of the JB Captain who ran the APU on transcons.....

WHY would you run the APU during a transcon? Thats just wasting gas to waste gas. On the other hand, depending on the amount of fuel the APU eats, you could possibly use it to burn fuel for a MLW landing.

RustyChain 05-25-2018 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by TCASTESTOK (Post 2602274)
WHY would you run the APU during a transcon? Thats just wasting gas to waste gas. On the other hand, depending on the amount of fuel the APU eats, you could possibly use it to burn fuel for a MLW landing.

I think you answered your own question.

ShyGuy 05-25-2018 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand (Post 2601980)
There are two captains at JB that have done the carpet dance. One a few years ago, he was given the "chance" to publicly via video apologise and I believe kept his job. More recently we had one fired for PA exploits.

CYA gents, and be professional. Not sure how frontier is, but JB doesn't mess around with their employees and public shaming of the company.

Was that the BDL divert CA?


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