The training department would never allow that. Plus, we are still doing the hiring, not the company.

Well I’ll sit back and wait for your apology because it’s happening right now. Btw, they are already trying to push the pilots out of the process. Things are getting bad. If you didn’t know this, then you are unaware of a lot of bs headed our way

I got to admit that I'm surprised the company has allowed our hiring board to continue being so selective. If I were in upper management, I'd force the hiring board to up the percentage of offers.

There was one day when they interviewed 5 (qualified) pilots and didn’t hire a single one. I’m sure they said they’d leave as soon as they got called from a legacy. On a side note, RR is no longer a part of the recruitment department after that YouTube video came out. I guess the Union was upset he was wearing an ALPA pin. And the Union also was upset that they mentioned us throwing bags and pushing wheelchairs in the recruitment video when that is not a part of our job description nor do we have the proper training. They may have filed a grievance.

If you step in $hit then you smell like $hit. The guy you work for is a piece of $hit. He's pimping the pilots and using the system against you.

That’s very profound. Yoda, you are.

It is, indeed, happening. The first few start next month; the camel’s nose is now under the tent.

Enjoy!

I don’t doubt this. But until HR also administers check rides and IOE it is incumbent on our training department to uphold the standard. I don’t care if our washout rate is 99% I expect them to not compromise safety.

There is no new program. The restricted ATP license has been in place since the inception of the rule, allowing one to get an ATP with less than 1500 hours. Military, 4 year degree, 2 year degree, etc... Nothing new here, other than the fact they are hiring people right at mins.

Up to the training department to make sure they pass. Some super senior DEN captains here that are terrible pilots with a huge no fly list. Some young bucks here that are outstanding. I love how you guys came from some crap prop job when you couldn't get hired by a legacy, living in DEN and are now Airbus capts acting holier than thou about a rule that wasn't even in place when you were hired.

I’ve commented to a couple of my contemporaries lately that I’m amazed at how my “pilot” job has evolved at F9.

These days, I spend about 5% of my mental energy flying the plane with the rest being spent trying to keep this ongoing dumpster fire of an operation from causing death and devastation.

On nearly every leg, I find myself resisting outward pressures to ignore significant deficiencies just to keep the operation moving. I find it ironic that our most recent FOM modification requires that we discuss “threats” to the operation when the operation itself (and the enormous untrained change in SOPs via the aforementioned FOM revision) are almost always the biggest threats we’ll encounter.

I consider myself fortunate to have had nearly 8000 hours of rightseat F9 Airbus time before I upgraded a little over 4 years ago. I also appreciate the fact that many (most) of the FO’s that I flew with when I first upgraded were also very experienced in the Airbus.

What concerns me now is that we’ve got new captains who have minimal time in the Airbus combined with minimal time in the F9 system who are facing the most dorked up operation anyone can fathom... who will now be paired with new FOs who may have zero or almost zero 121 time or jet time.

This isn’t a dig against the new guys. Everyone was once inexperienced. It’s not their fault. It also doesn’t change the facts... they’re inexperienced. The reason we’re contemplating hiring inexperienced folks is that anyone with any experience at all won’t come to work for this ****hole at the wages we’re offering.

If safety really was even in the top 5 on our corporate priority list, we’d raise wages to attract appropriately experienced pilots.

Flame suit on...