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#352
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Joined APC: Dec 2017
Position: Part 91
Posts: 119
I wouldn’t be surprised if some guys still don’t know their May or June class isn’t happening. I was scheduled for May. The email went to junk mail. “Lucky” me for checking it.
#353
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Joined APC: Jan 2015
Posts: 57
Timely manner? I'm pretty sure everyone was given at least 2-4 weeks (depending on which class you were in) notice about their class date moving. Turning in your notice and quitting your current job a month away from your class date probably isn't the smartest move.
#354
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Joined APC: Aug 2016
Position: Bus CA
Posts: 658
Depending on where your coming from in the industry 2 weeks isn’t enough. Several guys I interviewed with are coming from the corporate world including myself. These companies operations basically shut down until a replacement pilot is found. Giving them only a 2 weeks notice is not well received in most cases. We were told we would get a confirmation at least 30 days prior to class starting. Our last communication from the company stated that the April class was slightly reduced however they would resume full training/hiring with the May class. A week later we received a generic pool letter which indicated a potential class date of July/August. This letter was sent to everyone who wasn’t already in training. So they were telling 3+ months worth of new hires the same thing. It was a little confusing to say the least. We have tried to get a clear answer on what’s going on but no one has responded to our inquiries. We all understand that needs change and schedules may need to be adjusted. All we are asking for is clear communication on what is happening so we can plan accordingly.
#355
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Joined APC: Mar 2015
Posts: 514
If these ****bird companies have to shut down they deserve it for being poorly run. Im so tired of pilots blamed for ****ty management.
#356
Many corporate pilots develop close relationships with their owners and fellow pilots, and simply don't wish to bail with a 2 week notice and leave their fellow pilots to pick up the slack.
Maybe their owner is about to send them to a $70K recurrent training course next month and they are trying to be considerate and not burn a bridge.
Fortune 400 flight departments are not like the regionals that will hire any goofball who walks thorough the door. Decent corporate operators take time to hire the right person to fit their operation. Finding a new replacement for that one slot could take a month or more.
So an airline giving only a 2 week notice to attend class can create an uncomfortable situation for said pilot. Especially if he was told to expect a class less than a month away, then 3 weeks before they change their mind and give a date 2-3 months away.
Seems like the airline may be the ones with poor management and planning.
#357
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Joined APC: Dec 2018
Posts: 31
Just because a corporate operator takes a hit from losing a pilot on short notice does not mean they are poorly run. Many great corporate jobs only have 1, 3 or 5 aircraft. A staff of 3 pilots may be plenty for 1 airplane to provide a decent schedule.
Many corporate pilots develop close relationships with their owners and fellow pilots, and simply don't wish to bail with a 2 week notice and leave their fellow pilots to pick up the slack.
Maybe their owner is about to send them to a $70K recurrent training course next month and they are trying to be considerate and not burn a bridge.
Fortune 400 flight departments are not like the regionals that will hire any goofball who walks thorough the door. Decent corporate operators take time to hire the right person to fit their operation. Finding a new replacement for that one slot could take a month or more.
So an airline giving only a 2 week notice to attend class can create an uncomfortable situation for said pilot. Especially if he was told to expect a class less than a month away, then 3 weeks before they change their mind and give a date 2-3 months away.
Seems like the airline may be the ones with poor management and planning.
Many corporate pilots develop close relationships with their owners and fellow pilots, and simply don't wish to bail with a 2 week notice and leave their fellow pilots to pick up the slack.
Maybe their owner is about to send them to a $70K recurrent training course next month and they are trying to be considerate and not burn a bridge.
Fortune 400 flight departments are not like the regionals that will hire any goofball who walks thorough the door. Decent corporate operators take time to hire the right person to fit their operation. Finding a new replacement for that one slot could take a month or more.
So an airline giving only a 2 week notice to attend class can create an uncomfortable situation for said pilot. Especially if he was told to expect a class less than a month away, then 3 weeks before they change their mind and give a date 2-3 months away.
Seems like the airline may be the ones with poor management and planning.
Agreed. I ran a couple part 91 corporate outfits. Some where I was the only full time pilot to where I had 5 pilots. In my operations if a pilot only gave two weeks notice it would hurt our operations. I asked that they gave as much time as they could so I could start planning their replacement. Likewise, if something changed last minute you bet they kept their job and got paid till they really did leave. When my boss eventually sold the airplane I was flying he continued to pay me for several months afterwards even when I had another job already. But that is the relationship that a corporate pilot often builds with his owner/boss.
#358
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Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 663
Agreed. I ran a couple part 91 corporate outfits. Some where I was the only full time pilot to where I had 5 pilots. In my operations if a pilot only gave two weeks notice it would hurt our operations. I asked that they gave as much time as they could so I could start planning their replacement. Likewise, if something changed last minute you bet they kept their job and got paid till they really did leave. When my boss eventually sold the airplane I was flying he continued to pay me for several months afterwards even when I had another job already. But that is the relationship that a corporate pilot often builds with his owner/boss.
Many people that own/fly/manage corporate airplanes love to drag the pilot through the mud when they leave. But they resist looking in the mirror and asking themselves WHY the pilot left.
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