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sailingfun 05-08-2019 06:39 AM

The first thing you have to understand is that any city or state income tax is based on where the income is earned for most employees. Where you live is not relevant unless you are a transportation worker which you are. If as a transportation worker you do not perform more than 50% of your work in a specific state you are taxed based on your residence. You should be able to file and get a refund on what you already paid.

“”Federal law provides that certain interstate transportation and commerce employees, such as pilots, are subject to tax in their state of residence and any state in which they earn more than 50 percent of their pay for being a pilot. This is determined by looking to whether the pilot’s flight time in any non-residence state exceeds 50 percent of the total flight time worked by the pilot while employed during the calendar year. The pilot may be entitled to a tax credit in his residence state for taxes on his pay that is paid to other states.””

Vols 05-08-2019 07:08 AM

Thanks for the feedback everybody. I spoke with one of our union reps this morning and learned that the union has set up a meeting with the company on this matter at the end of May. Apparently, Frontier must submit a form on our behalf (sounds similar to what the Republic pilot suggested), but they have not put forth the effort to do so yet.

CantStayAway 05-08-2019 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by Vols (Post 2816337)
Apparently, Frontier must submit a form on our behalf (sounds similar to what the Republic pilot suggested), but they have not put forth the effort to do so yet.

That’s so frustrating because I emailed BK in payroll about this exact thing back in January and was told that she’d look into it. Obviously we see how much of a priority it was to her. I guarantee she’d have done more research if 3.5% was coming out of her check. Good luck PHL pilots. I may wind up there next year so I’m watching this with a vested interest.

ecam 05-08-2019 10:47 AM

I have some friends at AA based in PHL and they know nothing about this. Never seen it on their check.

full of luv 05-09-2019 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by Vols (Post 2816055)
I was told by a union rep that the approximate 3.5 percent Philadelphia non-resident income tax would not apply to pilots commuting to PHL. 3.5 percent was taken out of my most recent pay (it was not applied in the previous months I have been based there).

This will amount to nearly $1000 per month! Payroll has been inconsistent and vague in responding to my questions on the application of this tax. I will change bases to avoid paying this if it is my only choice.

Apparently "Brotherly love" doesn't come for free!

sab1250 05-09-2019 05:03 PM

https://www.phila.gov/2018-09-27-whe...hias-wage-tax/

“A non-resident is exempt from the Wage Tax when the employer requires him or her to perform a job outside of Philadelphia.”

According to this, the most we would have to pay is the work done in Phl; as a non-resident. I would count this as taxi time at most. This was the first paycheck I have had the tax withheld. Not happy about it, and fairly positive we are exempt from paying any of it, or at least 98% of what we credit. Definitely going to contact the union and payroll tomorrow.

randyvost 05-09-2019 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by sab1250 (Post 2817385)
https://www.phila.gov/2018-09-27-whe...hias-wage-tax/

“A non-resident is exempt from the Wage Tax when the employer requires him or her to perform a job outside of Philadelphia.”

According to this, the most we would have to pay is the work done in Phl; as a non-resident. I would count this as taxi time at most. This was the first paycheck I have had the tax withheld. Not happy about it, and fairly positive we are exempt from paying any of it, or at least 98% of what we credit. Definitely going to contact the union and payroll tomorrow.



I think you're right. Please let us know what they say

upup89 05-10-2019 01:34 AM


Originally Posted by sab1250 (Post 2817385)
https://www.phila.gov/2018-09-27-whe...hias-wage-tax/

“A non-resident is exempt from the Wage Tax when the employer requires him or her to perform a job outside of Philadelphia.”

According to this, the most we would have to pay is the work done in Phl; as a non-resident. I would count this as taxi time at most. This was the first paycheck I have had the tax withheld. Not happy about it, and fairly positive we are exempt from paying any of it, or at least 98% of what we credit. Definitely going to contact the union and payroll tomorrow.

The IRS considers you a transportation employee who spends more than 50 percent of your time away from your base. You are required to pay taxes for where you live. Unless you live in Philly you dont owe anything to them. Hopefully the company stops this withholding.

Prettywhacked1 05-11-2019 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by ecam (Post 2816470)
I have some friends at AA based in PHL and they know nothing about this. Never seen it on their check.

As it was explained to some F9 PHL Pilots I’ve recently talked to, the PHL AA gates in A/B/C are NOT in the city limits, so those pilots aren’t subject to the tax. F9 in E and regionals in F are.........just whackadoodle enough to be true, sadly enough.........:(

wankel7 05-11-2019 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by Vols (Post 2816055)
I was told by a union rep that the approximate 3.5 percent Philadelphia non-resident income tax would not apply to pilots commuting to PHL. 3.5 percent was taken out of my most recent pay ($1000 per month!

You're earning $30,000 a month pre tax? Dang.


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