Frontier vs Flow
07-11-2019, 03:05 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by lowcountryflyer
You would be surprised what guys are making at F9 right now. The long sought after SWA golden ring is a relic of the past.
And before anyone calls BS, I’ve seen it (as well as many others) with my own eyes. If you’re willing to work the system at F9, you can make just as much as any other FO, lower rates and all.
07-11-2019, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Phoenix21
Money today is better than the promise of money sometime in the future. A 25+ year commute would suck, so go to the place where you want to live.
You could be a captain at Frontier by time you flow in 3 or 4 years (depending on how many times AA shuts down hiring to deal with training backlogs caused by mass displacements as fleets change and folks re-bid). You’re still about be 7-10 years away from being an airbus captain at AA.
There are plenty of WO pilots who would be very hesitant to turn down a job offer at a major with the way things have been going at the WOs and the uncertainty of the financial future at AA long term.
You could be a captain at Frontier by time you flow in 3 or 4 years (depending on how many times AA shuts down hiring to deal with training backlogs caused by mass displacements as fleets change and folks re-bid). You’re still about be 7-10 years away from being an airbus captain at AA.
There are plenty of WO pilots who would be very hesitant to turn down a job offer at a major with the way things have been going at the WOs and the uncertainty of the financial future at AA long term.
07-11-2019, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Brickhut
We had a 2 year FO credit 251 on 78 block in May. $31k month for him.
And before anyone calls BS, I’ve seen it (as well as many others) with my own eyes. If you’re willing to work the system at F9, you can make just as much as any other FO, lower rates and all.
And before anyone calls BS, I’ve seen it (as well as many others) with my own eyes. If you’re willing to work the system at F9, you can make just as much as any other FO, lower rates and all.
07-11-2019, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by CantStayAway
I believe it. Did he have vacation though? Or get awarded a check airman line and get displaced for the month? That definitely makes a difference. Working the system to credit more than 125 hours a month with PBS next year will be much more difficult.
Last edited by fcoolaiddrinker; 07-11-2019 at 06:11 PM.
07-11-2019, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by CantStayAway
I believe it. Did he have vacation though? Or get awarded a check airman line and get displaced for the month? That definitely makes a difference. Working the system to credit more than 125 hours a month with PBS next year will be much more difficult.
Last edited by fcoolaiddrinker; 07-11-2019 at 06:30 PM.
07-11-2019, 06:19 PM
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Going to frontier for anything other than a type rating to jump to a major quicker is an exercise in delusion. The contract is somewhat better than before but it lags greatly behind most other majors. Even some regional airlines. Anyone who tells you otherwise has a personal motivation and isn’t helping you. Go to American OP.
07-11-2019, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ClearCreek
Going to frontier for anything other than a type rating to jump to a major quicker is an exercise in delusion. The contract is somewhat better than before but it lags greatly behind most other majors. Even some regional airlines. Anyone who tells you otherwise has a personal motivation and isn’t helping you. Go to American OP.
07-11-2019, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ClearCreek
Going to frontier for anything other than a type rating to jump to a major quicker is an exercise in delusion. The contract is somewhat better than before but it lags greatly behind most other majors. Even some regional airlines. Anyone who tells you otherwise has a personal motivation and isn’t helping you. Go to American OP.
07-11-2019, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ClearCreek
Going to frontier for anything other than a type rating to jump to a major quicker is an exercise in delusion. The contract is somewhat better than before but it lags greatly behind most other majors. Even some regional airlines. Anyone who tells you otherwise has a personal motivation and isn’t helping you. Go to American OP.
Last edited by fcoolaiddrinker; 07-11-2019 at 07:02 PM.
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