Airbus FCOM
08-02-2019, 09:29 AM
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I may be a bit of a nerd, but I'm not such a nerd that I spend my free time studying the differences between the FCOM and our SOPs.
However, I have always found it interesting how much leeway airlines have to operate their aircraft differently from how the manufacturer recommends. How and why airlines just make up their own procedures has always kind of baffled me. Seems to me, every airline should operate more or less the same. But I've been on other airlines jumpseats and not really been sure what the heck they were doing. On a plane I'm typed in
However, I have always found it interesting how much leeway airlines have to operate their aircraft differently from how the manufacturer recommends. How and why airlines just make up their own procedures has always kind of baffled me. Seems to me, every airline should operate more or less the same. But I've been on other airlines jumpseats and not really been sure what the heck they were doing. On a plane I'm typed in
08-02-2019, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
I may be a bit of a nerd, but I'm not such a nerd that I spend my free time studying the differences between the FCOM and our SOPs.
However, I have always found it interesting how much leeway airlines have to operate their aircraft differently from how the manufacturer recommends. How and why airlines just make up their own procedures has always kind of baffled me. Seems to me, every airline should operate more or less the same. But I've been on other airlines jumpseats and not really been sure what the heck they were doing. On a plane I'm typed in
However, I have always found it interesting how much leeway airlines have to operate their aircraft differently from how the manufacturer recommends. How and why airlines just make up their own procedures has always kind of baffled me. Seems to me, every airline should operate more or less the same. But I've been on other airlines jumpseats and not really been sure what the heck they were doing. On a plane I'm typed in
08-02-2019, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Omniscient
Spirit is changing the flows this monthly to more closely mirror the Airbus ways
Biggest change is aircraft acceptance; flows are PF and PM, whereas now it’s CA and FO.
Biggest change is aircraft acceptance; flows are PF and PM, whereas now it’s CA and FO.
08-02-2019, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Cardinal
F9 does use Airbus QRH procedures, with a little company fluff attached.
No FCOM however, a Frontier specific “Flight Operations Manual Volume II” is how F9 flies the aircraft.
No FCOM however, a Frontier specific “Flight Operations Manual Volume II” is how F9 flies the aircraft.
So the QRH only includes a few procedures from each system and not the whole list of abnormal procedures?
08-03-2019, 09:02 AM
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Airlines use different procedures to keep uniformity across the fleet if they have multiple types... we say “flaps zero, after take off check”... delta says “slats retract”... they say that on airbus and boeing to keep transition between types easier and more fluid... I have no idea why us, allegiant, jetblue and spirit would have different procedures or calls
08-03-2019, 10:20 AM
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The truth is, most airlines have way more data than the manufacturer. Airlines conduct more flights with a greater variety of pilots (not a small team of test pilots). If a procedure isn't working well, an airline will discover it long before the manufacturer.
The goal of the manufacturer isn't to produce the best procedures, it is to produce procedures that work for that specific aircraft. Sometimes the specific manufacturer procedures conflict with an airline's general operating philosophy.
The goal of the manufacturer isn't to produce the best procedures, it is to produce procedures that work for that specific aircraft. Sometimes the specific manufacturer procedures conflict with an airline's general operating philosophy.
08-03-2019, 01:22 PM
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F9’s procedures are different then the Airbus FCOM. Things like standard calls, procedures for PF/PM, and when and how emergency procedures are handled. Also every company who uses FCOM might also have slightly different procedures like the Captain is alway PF on the ground.
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