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Old 08-14-2019, 08:48 AM
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How did this event not make the news?
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Old 08-14-2019, 09:03 AM
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Accident: Frontier A321 at Orlando on Aug 8th 2019, windshear causes hard landing and tail strike

Accident: Frontier A321 at Orlando on Aug 8th 2019, windshear causes hard landing and tail strike
By Simon Hradecky, created Tuesday, Aug 13th 2019 23:25Z, last updated Tuesday, Aug 13th 2019 23:27Z

A Frontier Airlines Airbus A321-200, registration N717FR performing flight F9-1187 from Portland,ME to Orlando,FL (USA), was on final approach to Orlando's runway 18L when tower advised about a windshear alert 15 knots loss on 1nm final and cleared the flight to land. The crew continued, encountered windshear and touched down hard at 13:29L (17:29Z), performed a bounce recovery and went around. The aircraft positioned for another approach now for runway 35R about 25 minutes after the balked landing and landed without further incident.

The occurrence aircraft is still on the ground in Orlando about 126 hours after landing.

On Aug 13th 2019 The Aviation Herald received information the aircraft touched down at almost +4G and suffered a tail strike as result of windshear on short final close to ground. The damage is being assessed, it does not appears impossible the damage needs to be assessed beyond repair.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...458Z/KPWM/KMCO

Metars:
KMCO 081953Z 25009KT 10SM FEW040 FEW090 SCT250 BKN300 33/22 A2996 RMK AO2 LTG DSNT NE SLP144 T03280222=
KMCO 081853Z 28008KT 10SM FEW035CB SCT090 BKN250 32/23 A2998 RMK AO2 LTG DSNT NE AND E RAE06 TSB19E38 SLP150 CB DSNT E MOV E TCU DSNT N-NE SE VCSH E P0001 T03220233=
KMCO 081838Z 28011KT 10SM FEW035CB SCT090 BKN250 32/24 A2999 RMK AO2 LTG DSNT E RAE06 TSB19E38 CB DSNT E MOV E TCU DSNT N-NE SE VCSH E P0001 T03170239=
KMCO 081819Z 28005KT 10SM TS FEW035CB FEW090 BKN250 31/25 A2999 RMK AO2 LTG DSNT E RAE06 TSB19 OCNL LTGCG SE TS SE MOV E TCU NE-E VCSH SE P0001 T03110250=
KMCO 081753Z VRB04G31KT 6SM R35L/3500VP6000FT +RA FEW019 BKN037TCU BKN250 28/22 A3000 RMK AO2 PK WND 27031/1744 LTG DSNT E RAE00B44 SLP157 VIS NE 2 TCU ALQDS P0017 60017 T02780217 10328 20244 55005=
KMCO 081653Z 29007KT 10SM -RA SCT033TCU BKN250 31/24 A3000 RMK AO2 RAB48 SLP156 TCU ALQDS P0000 T03110239=
KMCO 081553Z 25009KT 10SM SCT029 32/24 A3001 RMK AO2 SLP159 T03170244=
KMCO 081453Z 24008KT 10SM SCT022 30/25 A3001 RMK AO2 SLP162 T03000250 50005=
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Old 08-14-2019, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Prettywhacked1 View Post
Prior to May 2019: “Full bore hiring!!!!”
May 2019: “Stop hiring!!!”
About a week ago: “Resume hiring!!!”
Post 717 tailscrape: “Stop hiring!!!”

Gotta love the consistency here........
huh??????????
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Old 08-14-2019, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by RustyChain View Post
huh??????????
No doubt... that post made zero sense
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Old 08-14-2019, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Prettywhacked1 View Post
Prior to May 2019: “Full bore hiring!!!!”
May 2019: “Stop hiring!!!”
About a week ago: “Resume hiring!!!”
Post 717 tailscrape: “Stop hiring!!!”

Gotta love the consistency here........
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Originally Posted by Scrapdaddy View Post
You just won the worst meme award.
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Originally Posted by havick206 View Post
You just won the worst meme award.
I could hear the whistle as it went over your head.
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Old 08-15-2019, 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ExecNav View Post
Came in shortly after them. Pop up storms all around the airport. Don't know what they got on final but we were 0 losses or gains all the way down final for 35R and then got a good 10+ knot loss right in the flare. It was a firm touch down for sure.

As for 717, I heard it was a go around...
The FAA will overlay the weather radar returns with the ATC tapes to determine if aircraft were conducting unstable approaches with convective weather. They will look at the incident flight as well as others in the same time frame. Good idea for anyone around that time frame to have a ASAP on file.
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Old 08-15-2019, 05:36 AM
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I listened to the ATC archives.

They reported a 25kt loss @ 50' to Approach after they went around.

Approach then tried to vector them for 17L with winds reported as 330/16. They went around immediately and then were vectored to 35R.
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Old 08-15-2019, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ColdWhiskey View Post
Crew experience?
Experienced captain and the FO is a good stick as well, I think it was the best outcome given the circumstances.
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