fastneat

Ladies and Gents..

Been reading your posts the last few days. Until recently, I have been laser focused on going to SWA, but the more I learn and the more I hear, and especially because I live near Denver, you guys are looking pretty good. About me: Old dude, final career, all four kids out of the house.. recently upgraded after one year as an FO at a regional flying the 175. Sitting on about 3500 total, 1300 total Turbine, of which 200 is PIC. No blemishes along the way, college degree, etc. My questions are:

1. Training. I understand the ground portion is now CBT from home. After that, when in Sims or otherwise not at home, is Frontier paying for hotels yet?

2. Once on the line, where are new FOs going? How long on Reserve? About how long to hold Denver?

3. How much is premium pay? I usually fly 95-100 hours a month, and will continue to do so if Frontier will allow.

4. Pros and Cons when compared with SWA.

5. Why did YOU go to Frontier?

Thank you for those who respond. I sincerely appreciate you.

ULLI

1. No hotels, they are trying to do home study and show up to training facility for like a week. I am not 100% on the exact new hire process or if it has started
2. Den is your initial base, that's why no hotels. Obtaining a line in den as an FO should not be too long.
3. Premium is above 82 credit hours at 125%. You can pick up extra flying on days off as a res.
4. List can go on forever. Pros for swa you will make more money in the right seat at swa. I don't think you will be a CA in den for long time as f9 pilot. You will have an opportunity to upgrade faster at f9 though, just not into den.
5. Seniority growth, has worked out for me. Last year or two fairly stagnant for the bottom guys.
Pilot group here is solid, easy to get along with.

fastneat

ULLI - you rok. Thank you.

I plan to go to f9 for the upgrade so hopefully I won’t be an FO for the rest of my 14 years like would have to be at SWA. If Den is possible within 4-5 years after upgrade, I think I can live with that. I hope that’s the case..

Thank you, again.

ULLI

6 years to hold den. Res will be years before being a line holder.
Good luck with your decision

fastneat

Appreciate your information.

Powderkeg

I don’t think you can quite grasp HOW senior Denver is without being here. When we say it’s senior, it’s an understatement. There are 10+ year pilots that live in Colorado and commute to LAS and ORD that will move back as soon as their QOL gets to an acceptable level in Denver. There are also many pilots that bypass upgrade to hold decent FO schedules in Denver so the top third of the Denver FO list is also very senior. That’s problem #1. Problem #2 is with each base we open most of the flying gets robbed from Denver, it shrinks a little more each time we open a base. F9 is moving away from being a “Denver airline”. So I’m not saying DON’T come here...I’m just saying don’t come here if having an HQ in Denver is the biggest reason.

fastneat

Powderkeg.. wow. That’s eye opening. Thanks.

butthert

Yeah but there are plenty of FOs that were hired back in 2017/2018 that have good QOL in Denver. Just give it some thought bro. Not a deal breaker and you never know where the next base will be.
Based on your age and experience you cannot go wrong at F9 .

Aero1900

I think you can still move up the FO seniority list in Denver to reach a comfortable level in decent time, but being a Denver captain is a long road. And to become a Denver line holding captain is a career long process

ontheroadagain

How about PHL and MCO? How do they look in terms of holding a line as an FO and upgrade?

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