Granadaman

Would one be able to drop down to 2 trips per month consistently?

Thanks for answering my questions!

Aero1900

No.

You must finish the month with 70 hours of pay credits. You can't do that with just 2 trips unless you are able to snag a premium trip or you have vacation. There are 6 months out of the year that you can finish with just 60 hours, but to answer your question simply; no.

Notarealpilot

there are lines built with just 3 4-day trips so on a vacation month you can use vacation to drop two of them and only have to do a 4-day for the whole month.

CantStayAway

However PBS will change that. Even still I’d guess that with a week of vacation in PBS you could just work just 1 4 day trip (after dropping other awarded trips in daily open time).

fcoolaiddrinker

depending on 60 or 70 credit bid period. The answer to that question is weather or not credit will be applied to inviolate days? If you can apply credit to inviolate days 1 four day a month will be no problem in a vac period. Hopefully it will be at pilots discretion. There’s no reason it shouldn’t be.

Aero1900

I don't believe that inv days will have any effect on credit. I think they just prevent PBS from giving you a trip that touches your 7 day vacation period.

However, our PBS language allows you to adjust the artificial vacation credit that in turn defines how much flying is placed on your schedule. I'll try to explain this to the best of my understanding:

On a vacation month under PBS, you will be able to select anywhere from 15 to 40 hours of what I'm calling "artificial vacation credit". The vacation week will always be worth 35 hours. That 35 pay credits is set in stone. The variable range from 15 to 40 dictates how much flying you want PBS to award you that month. Example: the target line build average is 75 for the example month. You select 15 hours for your vacation credit. The system will then try to award you 60hrs of credit hours to your month (outside of your vacation week obviously) this will then result in you flying 60 hrs and getting paid 95. (60+35)

On the other end of the spectrum, if you select 40, then the system will only award you 35 hours of flying for the month, giving you just 70hrs of pay credits but a lot of days off.

I hope that made sense. It's a process to tell PBS how much flying you want on your vacation month. I don't believe inv days have any credit associated with them

fcoolaiddrinker

inv days might or might not have credit attached. To be negotiated. That’s my understanding. It’s best to leave that at pilots discretion. I can assign credit to them or not. It’s independent of the bid other than the fact you can’t put flying on them.

Aero1900

Ok, I just thought they were a way to guarentee a longer stretch of days off. Hopefully the PBS language will be finalized and sent to us soon. Looking forward to reading it

Xdashdriver

We will have the option of associating credit to the inviolate days. Also, unless something has changed in the new LOA, the range of credit for vacation isn’t artificial. You will be able to assign an actual credit value from 15 to 40 hours to a week of vacation.

fcoolaiddrinker

If your goal is max days off in a row attach inviolate and 40 credit. Then drop just outside the inviolate. If your goal is money still do the 40 then don’t attach inviolate. I’ll bet there’s going to be an option to place flying on vac days if we want. Basically waive the block. We’ll see soon enough.