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#41
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Joined APC: Jul 2009
Posts: 410
I have no doubt these same individuals will find a way to manipulate and load their schedule during this crisis in such a way that it forces the company to pay them in excess of 300 credit hours per month. It is just another opportunity for them to profit excessively from whatever the current situation is.
Some of these people made over $600K in 2019, and at least one made in excess of $700K (and that did not include the signing bonus).
#42
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Joined APC: Dec 2012
Posts: 2,093
Not so sure I agree. None of the names of the company wh0res that were loading their schedules with incentivized or PAF flying during the contract negotiations or afterwards using their bots are on the list of Cola participants.
I have no doubt these same individuals will find a way to manipulate and load their schedule during this crisis in such a way that it forces the company to pay them in excess of 300 credit hours per month. It is just another opportunity for them to profit excessively from whatever the current situation is.
Some of these people made over $600K in 2019, and at least one made in excess of $700K (and that did not include the signing bonus).
I have no doubt these same individuals will find a way to manipulate and load their schedule during this crisis in such a way that it forces the company to pay them in excess of 300 credit hours per month. It is just another opportunity for them to profit excessively from whatever the current situation is.
Some of these people made over $600K in 2019, and at least one made in excess of $700K (and that did not include the signing bonus).
Last edited by fcoolaiddrinker; 04-01-2020 at 02:58 PM.
#43
Bus Driver ordinarie
Joined APC: Aug 2015
Position: Airbus CA
Posts: 555
RSV v AVL
It wouldn’t surprise me. I noticed that as well. Just substantially less opportunity to do so as there will be 80/90% less block to do it with. If it starts happening I’m reaching out to reps to try and negotiate a cap during cola months. I don’t think thier same strategy of dropping everything a week out and waiting for paf is going to work right now. The company should have plenty of reserves.
As far as assigning a trip goes; there's a huge difference between an AVL pilot and a RSV, CS have very little flexibility with the former. Imagine telling a RSV pilot commuting to work for 5 days that if they have not been called by 4pm the day prior they're released!
Substantially reduced flying equals substantially reduced flexibility; placing a much greater burden on RSVs, and on top of that; expect a 'Covid Curve' increase in Commuter & Sick calls as cancelations compound and the virus spreads..
One could also make a counter argument to your Credit Cap suggestion; that those who choose to fly are putting themselves in harms way to some extent; and compensated fairly for that..
CS & Planning cant be much fun these days. May Lines will be eye opening. (Then just close them again & hope it all goes away....)
Stay safe out there, or better still stay home.
//PL
#45
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Posts: 228
Not so sure I agree. None of the names of the company wh0res that were loading their schedules with incentivized or PAF flying during the contract negotiations or afterwards using their bots are on the list of Cola participants.
I have no doubt these same individuals will find a way to manipulate and load their schedule during this crisis in such a way that it forces the company to pay them in excess of 300 credit hours per month. It is just another opportunity for them to profit excessively from whatever the current situation is.
Some of these people made over $600K in 2019, and at least one made in excess of $700K (and that did not include the signing bonus).
I have no doubt these same individuals will find a way to manipulate and load their schedule during this crisis in such a way that it forces the company to pay them in excess of 300 credit hours per month. It is just another opportunity for them to profit excessively from whatever the current situation is.
Some of these people made over $600K in 2019, and at least one made in excess of $700K (and that did not include the signing bonus).
On an unrelated topic, I think the May cola requests will go way up. There will be no single day AVA. Instead everyone will be on reserve. This includes 20+ year CAs who have never sat reserve a day in their life. There will be a handful of turn lines, likely not super productive and everyone else will be on reserve.
can’t see commuting to reserve for an extra 25 hours of credit. I’ll gladly take 50 hours to sit home for the month.
#46
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Joined APC: Dec 2012
Posts: 2,093
While my experience of Premium is an Out & Back; and the PAF on the F/O side is the classic London bus (you wait for ever, then 3 come along at once...) I'm not sure what you've said about Reserves necessarily holds true.
As far as assigning a trip goes; there's a huge difference between an AVL pilot and a RSV, CS have very little flexibility with the former. Imagine telling a RSV pilot commuting to work for 5 days that if they have not been called by 4pm the day prior they're released!
Substantially reduced flying equals substantially reduced flexibility; placing a much greater burden on RSVs, and on top of that; expect a 'Covid Curve' increase in Commuter & Sick calls as cancelations compound and the virus spreads..
One could also make a counter argument to your Credit Cap suggestion; that those who choose to fly are putting themselves in harms way to some extent; and compensated fairly for that..
CS & Planning cant be much fun these days. May Lines will be eye opening. (Then just close them again & hope it all goes away....)
Stay safe out there, or better still stay home.
//PL
As far as assigning a trip goes; there's a huge difference between an AVL pilot and a RSV, CS have very little flexibility with the former. Imagine telling a RSV pilot commuting to work for 5 days that if they have not been called by 4pm the day prior they're released!
Substantially reduced flying equals substantially reduced flexibility; placing a much greater burden on RSVs, and on top of that; expect a 'Covid Curve' increase in Commuter & Sick calls as cancelations compound and the virus spreads..
One could also make a counter argument to your Credit Cap suggestion; that those who choose to fly are putting themselves in harms way to some extent; and compensated fairly for that..
CS & Planning cant be much fun these days. May Lines will be eye opening. (Then just close them again & hope it all goes away....)
Stay safe out there, or better still stay home.
//PL
Last edited by fcoolaiddrinker; 04-01-2020 at 04:01 PM.
#47
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Joined APC: Apr 2017
Posts: 464
take it off the average credit and it’s around 40%. There’s not a whole lot of pilots finishing at 75, reserves included now. Not to mention there shouldn’t be any crazy 200 plus credit paychecks by the end of the bid period. I’ll bet it’s closer to a 10% payroll saving. May should be more.
#49
If that’s the case, the company should come out and say they need more COLA’s. A lot of people chose to stay flying in April to help the commuters like myself. Or better yet, close COLA bid for May before closing the May hard line bid. This way they have an idea of how many accept COLA and then restructure the May lines.
#50
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 70
If that’s the case, the company should come out and say they need more COLA’s. A lot of people chose to stay flying in April to help the commuters like myself. Or better yet, close COLA bid for May before closing the May hard line bid. This way they have an idea of how many accept COLA and then restructure the May lines.
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