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Old 03-31-2021, 08:58 AM
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Is that before or after Allegiant buys Frontier?
After we buy American
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Old 03-31-2021, 09:22 AM
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There's no set algorithm for seniority list integration. It's accomplished in accordance with ALPA's merger and fragmentation policy which only sets the requirements for negotiating a combined seniority list. You can find the document online. If a combined seniority list is required, it will likely be a blend of DOH/relative seniority, depending on what airline hired how much and when. It's complicated and the goal is to **** off the fewest number of pilots as possible.
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There's no set algorithm for seniority list integration. It's accomplished in accordance with ALPA's merger and fragmentation policy which only sets the requirements for negotiating a combined seniority list. You can find the document online. If a combined seniority list is required, it will likely be a blend of DOH/relative seniority, depending on what airline hired how much and when. It's complicated and the goal is to **** off the fewest number of pilots as possible.
And given all those factors, an F9/NK list integration would probably be one of the easiest in history. NK is bit larger and may have hired a bit more in physical number of pilots, but by percentage of airline size, NK and F9 hiring is probably pretty close. When you also factor in career progression expectations, F9 probably takes the lead there due order size and seniority list movement due to that order. While NK also has a large order, it will affect seniority movement there to a smaller extent due to their current size. All in all it will likely be an arbitrator making the decision, but it should be a pretty even wash. Some of us may gain or lose a small percentage of seniority, but I don’t think anyone would be shaking their fist at the sky for the rest of their career.

For the record, I really don’t think any merger is imminent. I’ve never been through one and really don’t care to. But, if I had to, I wouldn’t lose too much sleep if it were NK. SWA on the other hand...
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After we buy American

Don’t be ridiculous. Obviously we’re buying Delta.


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Don’t be ridiculous. Obviously we’re buying Delta.


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you guys don’t even own yourselves. Indigo just wants to make a buck and sell y’all when the times right
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Old 03-31-2021, 12:57 PM
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you guys don’t even own yourselves. Indigo just wants to make a buck and sell y’all when the times right
Doesn't every investor wants to make a buck? Asking for a friend
I think it's safe to say BF has made more then a buck since owning frontier

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Old 03-31-2021, 02:55 PM
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you guys don’t even own yourselves. Indigo just wants to make a buck and sell y’all when the times right
Does anyone? Aren't we all publicly traded companies?
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you guys don’t even own yourselves. Indigo just wants to make a buck and sell y’all when the times right
Dumb post of the year, early.
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Old 04-03-2021, 04:54 AM
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Dumb post of the year, early.
look at indigo history, they even did it with spirit. I could see Allegiant buying y’all since your going to the outstation base model with only day trips.
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Old 04-03-2021, 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator View Post
look at indigo history, they even did it with spirit. I could see Allegiant buying y’all since your going to the outstation base model with only day trips.
It's hard for you to admit you are still bitter that frontier never called you... Just move on man, it's better for your health. Your comments consistently proof that you are clueless when it comes to frontiers operation. It's okay, you just don't know better. A single look at the bid packet proofs your statement inaccurate.
Also what ever happens its out of our control as pilots for the most part, who buys us or who we buy. Pilot often don't realize we are not in charge of corporations.
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