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12-04-2021, 08:26 PM
#41
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Originally Posted by Sebastiaen
For sure. Which the calendar date kind of is. All these turns out of DEN that pay 5.5 would then pay 10 hours. Problem is then getting 3 back to back which would reduce the overall credit, for which a red-eye overnight would be a good solution.
It shouldn’t, but it should turn to a vote if a return favor is given, like extension of the new CBA deadline (which I was referring to).
It shouldn’t, but it should turn to a vote if a return favor is given, like extension of the new CBA deadline (which I was referring to).
Last edited by fcoolaiddrinker; 12-04-2021 at 09:08 PM.
12-04-2021, 09:24 PM
#42
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Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker
The company raising first year pay for recruiting purposes is not a favor to us. It’s language they wanted. We wanted to make sure they couldn’t pay more to a probationary pilot than a year 2 pilot for obvious reasons. It’s mutually beneficial language. No return favor will be given.
12-05-2021, 04:31 AM
#43
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Red eye override
I doubt seriously a red eye turn will ever paid as a two day. A red eye override definitely should happen. One thing for sure that we should have is min day. 10 hour three day trips should not be happening.
12-05-2021, 04:58 AM
#44
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Originally Posted by Sebastiaen
I doubt it’ll be that scary. If there would be a vote for an increase in first year pay where in return we give a delay in a new CBA I’m sure there will be an astounding NO. There’s only about a 150 ish on first year pay. No way the other 1500 will vote for that, as they shouldn’t. I also don’t think there will be an offer to increase first year pay to what UAL gives right now, even though on first year pay, on min guarantee, it will only cost the company an extra 340k per month i.e. nothing.
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Amen!! Goodbye 10hr 3 days!!! Not acceptable.
12-05-2021, 10:27 AM
#47
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Per the 12/1 Seniority List: Added 19 pilots, seniority list grew to 1694 from 1984, therefore we lost 9 pilots, 1 to retirement + 8 resignations/terminations/washouts.
The system bid for November indicated 26 new pilots meaning we had 7 no-shows.
The system bid for November indicated 26 new pilots meaning we had 7 no-shows.
12-05-2021, 10:50 AM
#48
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Originally Posted by Mooneyguy
I doubt seriously a red eye turn will ever paid as a two day. A red eye override definitely should happen. One thing for sure that we should have is min day. 10 hour three day trips should not be happening.
8 hrs pay MINIMUM!
Den red eye turn out of east coast definitely 10 hrs!
12-05-2021, 12:24 PM
#49
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Originally Posted by Sebastiaen
For sure. Which the calendar date kind of is. All these turns out of DEN that pay 5.5 would then pay 10 hours. Problem is then getting 3 back to back which would reduce the overall credit, for which a red-eye overnight would be a good solution.
It shouldn’t, but it should turn to a vote if a return favor is given, like extension of the new CBA deadline (which I was referring to).
It shouldn’t, but it should turn to a vote if a return favor is given, like extension of the new CBA deadline (which I was referring to).
12-06-2021, 03:33 PM
#50
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
You will not get 10 hours for red-eye turns, both AA and DL have carve outs for later than midnight returns not qualifying as multi day, and JB and NK have carve outs for red-eye turns, so af far as the NMB is concerned that bar has been set (at ground level).
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