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… is a purely speculative dream of which would do wonders if brought to fruition!
In all seriousness though, Houston is growing just as rapidly as DFW in terms of population influx and there is an indisputable ULCC market with Spirit having opened an IAH crew base. In May ‘23 F9 will have crew bases established in the fortress hubs of both DAL and AA. Could UAL be next in the proverbial crosshairs and if so could IAH reasonably become a focus city for F9?
In all seriousness though, Houston is growing just as rapidly as DFW in terms of population influx and there is an indisputable ULCC market with Spirit having opened an IAH crew base. In May ‘23 F9 will have crew bases established in the fortress hubs of both DAL and AA. Could UAL be next in the proverbial crosshairs and if so could IAH reasonably become a focus city for F9?
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At the moment CLE does have more but this past summer for several months CVG had a few more when I looked. CVG may be cheaper to operate out of considering is more centrally located in the country therefore having shorter legs and may decrease the need for company paid hotels. Also, I would imagine a much lesser frequency of de-icing in the winter at CVG. The company probably doesn't care but if you had to commute to one or the other, CVG would likely be easier given the high volume of freight.
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some things which are factors when deciding a base
hangars available for on-site maintenance, to include jacking plane and tire, engine changes
number of hotel/overnights in that city (base status reduces this cost)
local economy, potential
gates, jetbridges, costs associated with the local airport board/committee/authority
other airlines operating there = not revinventing the wheel, a pool of passengers to steal from, etc.
that said, my crystal ball says CVG
https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/lo...s/95-479010736
https://www.cvgairport.com/about
Pre-Covid article but still good: http://www.usmayors.org/wp-content/u...-July-2018.pdf
Remember Frontier's passenger demographic is not really "brand loyal" they are "cheap loyal" so the more to steal from other carriers, the better. Business 101. McDonalds does it with Burger King (this is why a McDonalds is one block away from a Burger King). Also, big Fortune 500 HQ hub cities typically have employees with families and kids, and some income to travel. Again, Cincinnati.
My crystal ball....
hangars available for on-site maintenance, to include jacking plane and tire, engine changes
number of hotel/overnights in that city (base status reduces this cost)
local economy, potential
gates, jetbridges, costs associated with the local airport board/committee/authority
other airlines operating there = not revinventing the wheel, a pool of passengers to steal from, etc.
that said, my crystal ball says CVG
https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/lo...s/95-479010736
https://www.cvgairport.com/about
Pre-Covid article but still good: http://www.usmayors.org/wp-content/u...-July-2018.pdf
Remember Frontier's passenger demographic is not really "brand loyal" they are "cheap loyal" so the more to steal from other carriers, the better. Business 101. McDonalds does it with Burger King (this is why a McDonalds is one block away from a Burger King). Also, big Fortune 500 HQ hub cities typically have employees with families and kids, and some income to travel. Again, Cincinnati.
My crystal ball....
Last edited by hercretired; 01-18-2023 at 06:28 PM.
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Allegiant has a CVG base there and they’re pretty cheap also. CLE has spirit but they may get smaller with the JBLU merger. Does frontier utilize any hangars besides denver and Tampa ? I thought it was all outside and idk if cvg has any hangar space.
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