Originally Posted by DumboDrop

It like they are completely making things up now.

Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker

Let’s start to narrow it down a bit because there is no one answer to your question. Are you in a domicile or outstation when you lose your phone? At that point go into the reassignment language and follow the bouncing ball. If you’re at an outstation and want to get back to a domicile you’re probably going to want to return the call assuming it’s contractually compliant. If you’re in a domicile, without looking it up, I believe it’s one hr to reassign you to a flight that departs within three hrs or your done. So if the message they leave you complies with that provision I’m going to go ahead and call back. But again I’m not answering the phone and listening to the message first.

Also there’s contractual times when they can do these reassignments so you’ll want to make sure that’s complied with as well or maybe I’m not even going to call back depending on what they say.

Now if you really did lose your phone there’s other ways to communicate with company. I wouldn’t recommend acars.

Originally Posted by aero1900

trying to set a new "past precedent" for future negotiations?

Originally Posted by BiffleBalls

Your post is a perfect example of why I brought this up. And just now unbelievably - considering the timing - I get a call from CS wanting to "adjust my rest" prior to my show because "hold times are high" which I took to mean that airplanes are sitting around on the ground or at the gate. I am already at the airport, how can they arbitrarily adjust my rest 30 minutes before show time? Maybe it's obvious to other's and I have my moments of brilliance and the moments like these, but I just don't see what my contractual obligation to call them back actually is. As far as I can tell I am only obligated to show up at my gate at my showtime, period. If I am wrong I would love to know why.

Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker

They can’t. You would have to agree to that. There’s scenarios where I would do it (go home day potentially) and why that’s why you don’t answer, listen to what they say, and then make the decision.

Originally Posted by BiffleBalls

Yeah that's what I thought as well and what I might want to do since I want to be home tomorrow for the little ones, but then I'm not following the contract and as Aero rightly pointed out, might be one of the many that could be setting precedent for future negotiations.

Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker

How are you not following the contract? Are they trying to reassign you?

Originally Posted by BiffleBalls

No, adjust my rest prior to show time. Basically push back my show time even though I'm already here at the airport.

Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker

They can’t do that without your acceptance. This is a 117 violation. Not a contract issue. If you start pushing 117 limits with your original show time call the duty phone and refuse the flight. But again like your saying if you believe you need to extend to get home for Christmas, verbally accept the adjustment because if you don’t your not legal to do it.

Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker

They can’t do that without your acceptance. This is a 117 violation. Not a contract issue. If you start pushing 117 limits with your original show time call the duty phone and refuse the flight. But again like your saying if you believe you need to extend to get home for Christmas, verbally accept the adjustment because if you don’t your not legal to do it.