You do NOT have to answer your phone
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Let’s start to narrow it down a bit because there is no one answer to your question. Are you in a domicile or outstation when you lose your phone? At that point go into the reassignment language and follow the bouncing ball. If you’re at an outstation and want to get back to a domicile you’re probably going to want to return the call assuming it’s contractually compliant. If you’re in a domicile, without looking it up, I believe it’s one hr to reassign you to a flight that departs within three hrs or your done. So if the message they leave you complies with that provision I’m going to go ahead and call back. But again I’m not answering the phone and listening to the message first.
Also there’s contractual times when they can do these reassignments so you’ll want to make sure that’s complied with as well or maybe I’m not even going to call back depending on what they say.
Now if you really did lose your phone there’s other ways to communicate with company. I wouldn’t recommend acars.
Also there’s contractual times when they can do these reassignments so you’ll want to make sure that’s complied with as well or maybe I’m not even going to call back depending on what they say.
Now if you really did lose your phone there’s other ways to communicate with company. I wouldn’t recommend acars.
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Your post is a perfect example of why I brought this up. And just now unbelievably - considering the timing - I get a call from CS wanting to "adjust my rest" prior to my show because "hold times are high" which I took to mean that airplanes are sitting around on the ground or at the gate. I am already at the airport, how can they arbitrarily adjust my rest 30 minutes before show time? Maybe it's obvious to other's and I have my moments of brilliance and the moments like these, but I just don't see what my contractual obligation to call them back actually is. As far as I can tell I am only obligated to show up at my gate at my showtime, period. If I am wrong I would love to know why.
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Yeah that's what I thought as well and what I might want to do since I want to be home tomorrow for the little ones, but then I'm not following the contract and as Aero rightly pointed out, might be one of the many that could be setting precedent for future negotiations.
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Yeah that's what I thought as well and what I might want to do since I want to be home tomorrow for the little ones, but then I'm not following the contract and as Aero rightly pointed out, might be one of the many that could be setting precedent for future negotiations.
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No, trying to adjust my rest prior to show time. Basically push back my show time even though I'm already here at the airport. I've played this game plenty before at my last airline and now here - but it's Christmas and that's like The Superbowl when it comes to playing on the edges of the contract in regards to scheduling. I have a few friends that are having questions about all this as well, so - I brought it up.
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They can’t do that without your acceptance. This is a 117 violation. Not a contract issue. If you start pushing 117 limits with your original show time call the duty phone and refuse the flight. But again like your saying if you believe you need to extend to get home for Christmas, verbally accept the adjustment because if you don’t your not legal to do it.
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They can’t do that without your acceptance. This is a 117 violation. Not a contract issue. If you start pushing 117 limits with your original show time call the duty phone and refuse the flight. But again like your saying if you believe you need to extend to get home for Christmas, verbally accept the adjustment because if you don’t your not legal to do it.
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They can’t do that without your acceptance. This is a 117 violation. Not a contract issue. If you start pushing 117 limits with your original show time call the duty phone and refuse the flight. But again like your saying if you believe you need to extend to get home for Christmas, verbally accept the adjustment because if you don’t your not legal to do it.
the funny thing about the contract is it says we have to have one but not more than 3 phone numbers on file, but never gets specific about when we have to answer them. The “clarification email” that talks about UTC violations says that nothing had changed and it is still business as usual, but what is usual. When do we have to answer or call pick crew scheduling as a line holder?
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