New Contract Realistic Timeline
#12
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Is it possible that out of need they'll raise pay first and negotiate the contract for however long it takes? Or does one thing not happen without the other? Not saying that's an ideal option but it's an option.
Just seems like raising pay will be necessary very soon based on what is happening at Allegiant & Spirit attrition wise.
Just seems like raising pay will be necessary very soon based on what is happening at Allegiant & Spirit attrition wise.
#13
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Joined APC: Jun 2022
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Is it possible that out of need they'll raise pay first and negotiate the contract for however long it takes? Or does one thing not happen without the other? Not saying that's an ideal option but it's an option.
Just seems like raising pay will be necessary very soon based on what is happening at Allegiant & Spirit attrition wise.
Just seems like raising pay will be necessary very soon based on what is happening at Allegiant & Spirit attrition wise.
#14
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Joined APC: Jan 2022
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First of all, you scored big time. You really don't know how lucky you are. I made 14k a year flying 8 legs a day in a noisy ass turboprop. And i had to do that for 5 years to get hired at Frontier. And when I got hired at Frontier I only made $37/ hour. I was here 5 years making $88/ hour when this contract passed (10 years of being an airline pilot before I broke 100k)
Today, you'll start at $90/ hour, paid hotels, 15% automatic retirement contributions.... lucky duck! Im genuinely very happy for you, as this career desperately needed to get better. It has, and you a huge beneficiary of that.
This thread will lead to a bunch of grumpy ass guys that are masters of finding things to complain about. And that's a good thing too because that leads to improvements over time.
As for a new contract, my guess: 3 years.
Welcome and congratulations! Bust your ass in training and be the best pilot you can be.
Today, you'll start at $90/ hour, paid hotels, 15% automatic retirement contributions.... lucky duck! Im genuinely very happy for you, as this career desperately needed to get better. It has, and you a huge beneficiary of that.
This thread will lead to a bunch of grumpy ass guys that are masters of finding things to complain about. And that's a good thing too because that leads to improvements over time.
As for a new contract, my guess: 3 years.
Welcome and congratulations! Bust your ass in training and be the best pilot you can be.
#19
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Joined APC: Jul 2018
Posts: 482
I disagree with all of this. These days you’re honestly better going to a decent regional with a flow through to a legacy. You’ll make more money and not have to worry about the management at frontier section 19ing you for getting Covid and hurting your career. Frontier is the also the only major left without AQP in initial training. It’ll be years before they get a new contract and will always be subpar.
#20
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Joined APC: Jan 2022
Posts: 17
Regionals do s^ck but AQP is light years better at improving the skills of a pilot group as a whole rather than basically making us jump through a bunch of standard hoops and over hurdles in the sim like we were dogs competing for best in show. In AQP the focus is on learning, not testing. A failure is a big deal to someone moving on with their career and it's nice to go into AQP knowing you are not facing a pink slip. I do miss that, it's way more chill and a far better learning environment.
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