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Old 01-10-2023, 09:40 AM
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Hope that link works. The 321 override rates are the effective rates. Everyone gets those rates regardless of what they are flying
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Old 01-10-2023, 09:48 AM
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Hope that link works. The 321 override rates are the effective rates. Everyone gets those rates regardless of what they are flying
Those are accurate.

Also a few other things monetary wise but they don’t go into effect into Jan 2024, which was a sticking point for sure. Sadly we work for a broke as$ company they still can’t learn how to make profit yet
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Old 01-10-2023, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo View Post
Those are accurate.

Also a few other things monetary wise but they don’t go into effect into Jan 2024, which was a sticking point for sure. Sadly we work for a broke as$ company they still can’t learn how to make profit yet
Difficult to make a profit if you can’t retain enough pilots to fully utilize the aircraft you have on hand, far less the ones you’ve got coming.
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Old 01-10-2023, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo View Post
Can’t wait until Frontier can show us how it’s done.

Odds are very high NK will be in a JCBA with JBLU before F9 strikes a deal with your pilots.

This was a straight raise across the board, not a single concession, and a short 2 year deal to get us to the TPA and JCBA. Sorry if these rates fail to impress F9 pilots.

Like I said, can’t wait to see F9 hit it out of the park with Franke.
You people are so insecure.
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Old 01-10-2023, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo View Post
Can’t wait until Frontier can show us how it’s done.

Odds are very high NK will be in a JCBA with JBLU before F9 strikes a deal with your pilots.

This was a straight raise across the board, not a single concession, and a short 2 year deal to get us to the TPA and JCBA. Sorry if these rates fail to impress F9 pilots.

Like I said, can’t wait to see F9 hit it out of the park with Franke.
I agree. You don’t argue with free money. 2019 AA gave APA raises across the board. Take it and run. Saying no would be the all time bad precedent.
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Old 01-10-2023, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo View Post
Can’t wait until Frontier can show us how it’s done.

Odds are very high NK will be in a JCBA with JBLU before F9 strikes a deal with your pilots.

This was a straight raise across the board, not a single concession, and a short 2 year deal to get us to the TPA and JCBA. Sorry if these rates fail to impress F9 pilots.

Like I said, can’t wait to see F9 hit it out of the park with Franke.
Your management will be motivated so I agree… you will have a new agreement before we do. Frankie will still be sending the janitor to mediation at that point.
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Old 01-10-2023, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by APCHCLIMB View Post
Saying no would be the all time bad precedent.
Unless you have ~1500 open grievances...

Keep in mind Southwest has <150.
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Unless you have ~1500 open grievances...

Keep in mind Southwest has <150.
Psh amateurs.
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Old 01-10-2023, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo View Post
Can’t wait until Frontier can show us how it’s done.

Odds are very high NK will be in a JCBA with JBLU before F9 strikes a deal with your pilots.

This was a straight raise across the board, not a single concession, and a short 2 year deal to get us to the TPA and JCBA. Sorry if these rates fail to impress F9 pilots.

Like I said, can’t wait to see F9 hit it out of the park with Franke.
Its not just F9 pilots that those rates failed to impress but rather your peers at most other airlines.
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Old 01-10-2023, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900 View Post
12th year CA rates are $306 this year and $318 next year. Im sure someone will have a link to all of it

Not correct maybe those are Alaska’s new rates. 12 year ca is $300 and $312 next year.
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