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When does service to these exciting new destinations begin?

Since the company is advertising these new routes as a means of luring new pilots, we must have concrete plans to begin service? Right?

The company wouldn’t advertise destinations as if we service them today when they’re many years away, would they?

The XLRs could make it a reality but I’ll believe it when I see it. That would require the company to either fork out hotel money or find a way to put crew rest areas into a NB and that will eat into Barry and Frankie’s 3rd homes.

I saw those... the fact that they are putting not 1... not 2.... but 3... and ONLY 3 destinations that we DO NOT service and have not been told we will be servicing is odd to me. My girlfriend also watched the ad and asked me if we even flew there, She was in shock that they would put that in a recruiting ad.

Where is this ad?

Its on YouTube. Not sure why they couldn’t have just picked 3 cities we actually serve.

www.YouTube.com/watch?v=-cJazfg5CRE

Bullet points:
- faster path to seniority
- higher total comp in the first 10 years (than where, a regional?)
- fleet growth taking us above and beyond (DUB-HNL-LIM at top of slide)
- better base options
- schedule flexibility
- long term, stable employment

It's obviously complete nonsense. We don't have ETOPs, nor have we even begun to work on it. It's false advertising. Period.

You get paid more in the first ten years due to us doing mostly 1-2 day trips. Less opportunity to get divorced since you’re home more. Hence you make more.
Full disclosure: I’m practicing to be an airline executive next Halloween. Hope I’m getting there.

Aside from the sleaziness of it, I genuinely wonder the legality of a publicly-traded airline using pie-in-the-sky “destinations” in official company recruitment materials. Is this both false advertising and possibly an SEC issue with false forward-looking statements?? I mean who does this? Creating rumors as a means for recruitment. Unreal.

Officially updating my Delta app this place is a joke.

Just more dishonestly from a company that has normalized deceiving its customers, its employees, and its recruits. Nothing to see here.

In all seriousness this shows how desperate the hiring situation is. Using destinations we don’t fly to and haven’t announced to help in recruiting shows how deceiving the company is. Make more in the first 10 years here over a legacy? You can make $317 an hour at Delta right now if you upgrade like the junior guys are over there.

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Well, it’s smart on many accounts. It has people talking. For free.

Will the 321XLR’s go there ? Well, they didn’t buy them to go from ATL to RDU. I hope we never go to HNL. Half the pax are people cashing in their credit card points the other half is filled with non revs. Doesn’t make money. Lima, I think we’ll go to very soon. Especially with Spirit leaving the ULCC arena.

However, since we’re not going to any of those places yet, nor have we announced them, I find it questionable at best to recruit this way unless we announce all 3 soon. In which case i recommend paying attention to your water CBTs since they are all yours I’ll take the flights under an hour.

Just a little clarification on the HNL thing. During the investor day presentation they stated that they're going full speed on their credit card. The advertising definitely shows that they are taking it seriously (CLE). Eventually HNL will come and it will be filled with cardmembers burning through their points.

The flights don't make money, the credit card does.

We want them to be desperate! It's how we are going to get a good contract. It's all good

If it's 1/2 filled with Non-revs, you should be so lucky. I haven't seen a flight to/from the islands with more than a 1/2 dozen open seats in the last few years.

We could put a relief pilot on it and make it a red eye turn from vegas ! It would probably be 13 hour credit and work 7 days a month ! HNL would be popular with Hawaiians. They call vegas the 9th island. I also read the XLR will have some crew rest above and aft of cockpit ? I know United used to do HaWaii turns in the Dc10 back in the day.

If we end up doing Hawaii I'm sure we will do something horrific like that.

Bwahaaaaaa
talk about some serious entertainment 😂🤣😂🤣

You guys are getting worked up over nothing. That's just a sizzle reel some intern in HR came up with before going back to UND/Riddle

Regardless who came up with it, some manager or leader had to approve.

It amazes me because if any pilot or other employee “sizzle reeled” their resume or application or logbook with total bs, it would be grounds for termination. What do you do when it’s coming from the other side? Completely unethical, deceitful, and honestly really disappointing way to attract talent.

God forbid Frontier pays for a hotel.

Yes...! It's also so dumb that I think it will drive away more than it will attract.

Not so fast. I see a lot of truth in the video. Just ask all of BL’s Purdue guys. They are getting all that plus a crew meal now. 🤣😂

That made me laugh. It isn't false advertising whatsoever!

Maybe we will sleep in the cargo bay or something with a trap door to get down.. wouldn't surprise me.

We actually do hawaii turns right now on the 737. DH there and operate back or fly there and DH back. Goes pretty senior actually as it's a nearly 11 hour pay day. In addition to those, we do still have overnights down there.

I hope “ray ray” , Chris and Elise are getting residuals? Lol

They likely signed on for a percentage of all profits from the DUB route. Good for them! I hear we’re already oversold on every flight through November.

right on. What airline and what city pairs ? I was talking vegas since f9 doesn’t have any California bases.