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CRJdriver2017 02-02-2023 01:06 PM

I remember at the AA WO I was at,,right before I left a super big rumor about being absorbed into AA began. It still could be a thing but doesn’t seem to be gaining much traction just yet. It made my decision to bail much harder and I almost stayed. But I’m glad I didn’t. In the end it could very well have been a ploy to keep people there. Same principle here.

spooldup 02-02-2023 05:27 PM

I heard nothing of the sort at recurrent a couple months ago.

I did hear that There were talks of splitting us between Avelo and Delta though, selling some planes and pilots to each. Senior guys go to Avelo, junior people (newer than 425000) to Delta. Split 50/50 right down the seniority list.

CRJdriver2017 02-02-2023 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by spooldup (Post 3584823)
I heard nothing of the sort at recurrent a couple months ago.

I did hear that There were talks of splitting us between Avelo and Delta though, selling some planes and pilots to each. Senior guys go to Avelo, junior people (newer than 425000) to Delta. Split 50/50 right down the seniority list.

Well now there's something believable.

madmax757 02-02-2023 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by BufordT Justice (Post 3584259)
That aligns with BB’s supposed recent move to the Dallas area.

Maybe BB wants to be the commuting CEO !
He’s got his own private room and bath at BL crashpad :)


Heres another idea - pure speculation- maybe F9
will move it’s HQ to Dallas area and that is why BB moved there.

madmax757 02-02-2023 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by spooldup (Post 3584823)
I heard nothing of the sort at recurrent a couple months ago.

I did hear that There were talks of splitting us between Avelo and Delta though, selling some planes and pilots to each. Senior guys go to Avelo, junior people (newer than 425000) to Delta. Split 50/50 right down the seniority list.

I’m a 425000 number and at 33 % on the seniority list . Would have to go a few years Junior to 427000.

Does anyone know if Delta allows snake skin cowboy boots with spurs ?

Aero1900 02-02-2023 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by madmax757 (Post 3584848)

Does anyone know if Delta allows snake skin cowboy boots with spurs ?

Only during contract negotiations and without the hat

BufordT Justice 02-02-2023 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by madmax757 (Post 3584841)
Heres another idea - pure speculation- maybe F9 will move it’s HQ to Dallas area and that is why BB moved there.

That’s possible. They’d likely get a hefty tax break out of it.

madmax757 02-02-2023 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by BufordT Justice (Post 3584871)
That’s possible. They’d likely get a hefty tax break out of it.

That and they could probably sell the Denver HQ building for a good profit. I think its the only thing F9 actually purchased and doesn't lease.

ReserveCA 02-02-2023 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by madmax757 (Post 3584926)
That and they could probably sell the Denver HQ building for a good profit. I think its the only thing F9 actually purchased and doesn't lease.

I thought the den HQ building was a LEASE…..
indigo sold all the F9 assets

madmax757 02-02-2023 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by ReserveCA (Post 3584937)
I thought the den HQ building was a LEASE…..
indigo sold all the F9 assets

I'm probably wrong as usual. That would make sense as F9 doesn't really hold the deed to any property or pink slips to any aircraft. A virtual airline! even our paint jobs are stickers. Could probably pull them all off and have white tail aircraft in a few days.

05wt 02-03-2023 09:20 AM

Frontier/Indigo bought the building for 14 mil in 2017. Articles available online

ReserveCA 02-03-2023 09:40 AM

Indigo partners bought the building and is leasing it to frontier

JoeFever1 02-03-2023 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by 05wt (Post 3585222)
Frontier/Indigo bought the building for 14 mil in 2017. Articles available online

Wonder what it’s worth now?
Something is going on. If both of them are selling their homes then there are 3 main options. 1. Moving HQ 2. Both “retiring” / being ran out 3. Being sold, merged

Stayontarget 02-03-2023 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by JoeFever1 (Post 3585266)
Wonder what it’s worth now?
Something is going on. If both of them are selling their homes then there are 3 main options. 1. Moving HQ 2. Both “retiring” / being ran out 3. Being sold, merged

Both? Who did I miss selling their home? I saw BB.

JoeFever1 02-03-2023 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by Stayontarget (Post 3585313)
Both? Who did I miss selling their home? I saw BB.

BL. I cannot confirm. All rumor

SPAWNmaster 02-03-2023 11:19 AM

So just to add more speculation to the rumors. As stated before BL came into a CA upgrade class and separately a recurrent class and stated (corroborated by 3 different people who were in either class) that after the spirit deal fell through Delta made an offer on us which Indigo passed on and then went on to say we "would be sold or merged by this time next year" [alluding to fall 2023], whatever that means. I also want to comment on the idea of moving HQ to DFW...that sort of thing is usually announced months/years in advance by publicly traded companies. You don't just up and move your headquarters without saying anything. Typically states fight over tax advantages (for example what happened when General Electric moved from CT to MA). So not sure what's going on there and I would ask any of you saying BB sold his only property in CO to put up a source because that would be weird that the CEO decides to commute all of a sudden. Also can anyone actually confirm BL also sold property in CO? Not sure where that rumor came from aside from this forum.

Personally I'm here because I want nothing to do with the legacies (well if DAL bought us I might actually be ok with that but AAL is a dumpster fire and UAL has a risky growth plan). I think the growth opportunity with F9 as the sole ULCC of America and then ultimately part of an international network of ULCC codeshares would be a potentially trillion dollar market opportunity that I just don't see Indigo dropping for a quick buck. They are savage investors who know how to make money and if they wanted a quick buck they would have turned us over a few years ago. And we know that wasn't the plan because they would have done that already instead of pursuing the NK deal, they would have waited for us to emerge from covid then offloaded F9 but that never happened.

I also don't see how telling upgrade and recurrent classes that we passed on an offer and potentially may be giving up the growth vision is supposed to be good for recruitment or fix retention. If anything I think people would hurry up even quicker to DAL or UAL (if that's on their radar) if they knew we might end up at AAL or sold to another hedge fund, so I'm thinking that idea is bogus. The whole thing is weird though, I'll give y'all that much.

Stayontarget 02-03-2023 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by JoeFever1 (Post 3585318)
BL. I cannot confirm. All rumor

Maybe they are just buying second homes with the upcoming Q4 financial results. I had a whooooole lot of full flights.

BufordT Justice 02-03-2023 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by SPAWNmaster (Post 3585319)
So not sure what's going on there and I would ask any of you saying BB sold his only property in CO to put up a source because that would be weird that the CEO decides to commute all of a sudden.

I’m not sure if it’s his only property in Colorado, but I’d assume it was his primary based on the listed value of several millions. There is a screenshot of the MLS listing floating around.

I agree that it’s an odd move if he’s actually commuting back and forth to Denver. I can’t confirm that part.

Aero1900 02-03-2023 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by BufordT Justice (Post 3585440)
I’m not sure if it’s his only property in Colorado, but I’d assume it was his primary based on the listed value of several millions. There is a screenshot of the MLS listing floating around.

I agree that it’s an odd move if he’s actually commuting back and forth to Denver. I can’t confirm that part.


I know he has/ had a place up in the mountains, but I'm sure he has/had a place closer to the GO

planejoe 02-03-2023 04:12 PM

Maybe indigo allowed BB to work from home like the rest of the country, so he's off to run the airline from TX on Skype lol

doz4dllrs 02-03-2023 05:03 PM

https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...3_M22109-01230

I hope he takes those saddle barstools back to Texas with him.

upup89 02-03-2023 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by planejoe (Post 3585475)
Maybe indigo allowed BB to work from home like the rest of the country, so he's off to run the airline from TX on Skype lol

I imagine he is just retiring soon. But typically that sort of thing is announced months in advance. Maybe during the Q4 earnings presentation on the 8th.

DumboDrop 02-03-2023 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by planejoe (Post 3585475)
Maybe indigo allowed BB to work from home like the rest of the country, so he's off to run the airline from TX on Skype lol

It sure feels like he's running this place from home. A gd sh!tshow everytime I go to work.

DrJekyll MrHyde 02-03-2023 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by doz4dllrs (Post 3585496)
https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...3_M22109-01230

I hope he takes those saddle barstools back to Texas with him.

And it looks like the gently used exercise equipment comes with the house!

It’s a modest home for the CEO of a national company if we’re being honest.

madmax757 02-03-2023 07:00 PM

Maybe BB will keep an apartment or crash pad in Denver and claim Texas as his residence for tax purposes. A lot of Denver pilots thst commmute to LAS base bought a place there and don’t have to pay the state tax. It’s 5 percent in colorado?

Yabadaba 02-03-2023 07:04 PM

Yup, gently used gym all right….

I’d bet that the BL comments re: merger are only in reference to the JB-NK deal falling through. Timeline is right and they were convinced F9 was the only viable offer.

HUSKERFAN 02-03-2023 08:02 PM

I looked up the listing and BB is the owner….wow…that does seem interesting that’ he’s moving. Can anyone confirm the Tx part?

Mugatu 02-04-2023 08:21 AM

BB is establishing residency in Texas before his big cash payout from F9 sale. My eight ball says “all signs point” to United as the buyer.

CrayonEater 02-04-2023 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by Mugatu (Post 3585825)
BB is establishing residency in Texas before his big cash payout from F9 sale. My eight ball says “all signs point” to United as the buyer.

That is a pleasant fiction.

Scrapdaddy 02-04-2023 09:42 AM

Wasn’t he only contracted to be the CEO till 2023? That was the rumor months ago so looks like it’s true. No one is buying us, BB is just going to enjoy his well earned retirement. He turned this place into a money machine.

buzzer 02-04-2023 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by Mugatu (Post 3585825)
BB is establishing residency in Texas before his big cash payout from F9 sale. My eight ball says “all signs point” to United as the buyer.

UA is taking all the F9 pilots they can get. If that substantially slows down, that might be a clue. Otherwise I don’t see anything to substantiate the rumor.

FlyingR6 02-04-2023 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by buzzer (Post 3585919)
UA is taking all the F9 pilots they can get. If that substantially slows down, that might be a clue. Otherwise I don’t see anything to substantiate the rumor.

Wouldn't it be the opposite? If UA really wanted to buy us, wouldn't they try to get all the pilots from F9 on first year pay? If they just integrated, those same pilots would be at least 2 or 3, if not 5+ years of seniority, and would have to pay them as such in an integrated pilots.

For the record, it's NEVER going to happen. These rumors (except for Aero1900s classic AA write up!) are almost assuredly coming from management types. These kinda rumors are enough to keep a small percentage at F9. They are looking to stop the bleeding as much as possible, nothing is off the table.

Aero1900 02-04-2023 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingR6 (Post 3585979)

For the record, it's NEVER going to happen. These rumors (except for Aero1900s classic AA write up!) are almost assuredly coming from management types.

I've got a real hunch this time!!!

FlyingR6 02-04-2023 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 3585994)
I've got a real hunch this time!!!

Did you see you got featured in the FB group? They said it was from the wives page though. It got everyone riled up over there, which isn't hard these days!

Aviatormar 02-04-2023 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by doz4dllrs (Post 3585496)
https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...3_M22109-01230

I hope he takes those saddle barstools back to Texas with him.


I just looked at the tax records myself- this is not registered to our CEO. Unless it’s bought under an assumed name- this doesn’t really check out

BufordT Justice 02-04-2023 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by Aviatormar (Post 3586095)
I just looked at the tax records myself- this is not registered to our CEO. Unless it’s bought under an assumed name- this doesn’t really check out

Meabs Bay LP. Taxes being paid by Brandi.

Aero1900 02-04-2023 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingR6 (Post 3586018)
Did you see you got featured in the FB group? They said it was from the wives page though. It got everyone riled up over there, which isn't hard these days!

Yeah. My bad. But when the announcement is made public I'll be here saying I told you so. :)

VASBYT 02-05-2023 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 3586126)
Yeah. My bad. But when the announcement is made public I'll be here saying I told you so. :)

Or apologizing for starting rumors. Whatever intel you have, is very bad intel. It's just not going to happen! You would have to be a fool for believing it.

BufordT Justice 02-05-2023 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by VASBYT (Post 3586476)
Or apologizing for starting rumors.

New rumors are the best part of this job.

ReserveCA 02-05-2023 01:34 PM

And watching those react is the best entertainment!


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