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03-01-2023, 04:34 PM
#101
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Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker
Yup. There has to be a contractual time. I’ll buy the argument of moving the time later a bit but removing it completely is a bad idea. We had a loa that did just that in the last agreement and it was a complete disaster that had to be withdrawn. You need to force it to premium at some point. Especially considering premium should get fixed to a more equitable distribution in a new agreement.
But I 100% agree that the system of premium distribution absolutely needs to change.
03-01-2023, 04:37 PM
#102
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Originally Posted by AlternateLaw
I don’t know if I really agree with moving it later. I think if they’re below Min reserve coverage for that day it should be mandatory premium.
But I 100% agree that the system of premium distribution absolutely needs to change.
But I 100% agree that the system of premium distribution absolutely needs to change.
03-01-2023, 04:49 PM
#103
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Originally Posted by AlternateLaw
I don’t know if I really agree with moving it later. I think if they’re below Min reserve coverage for that day it should be mandatory premium. If FLICA won’t let you drop/swap a trip because it’s “below Min reserve coverage” then trips on those days after 9:30 should be premium.
But I 100% agree that the system of premium distribution absolutely needs to change.
But I 100% agree that the system of premium distribution absolutely needs to change.
03-01-2023, 05:00 PM
#104
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Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker
I had to think about that for a second because I like the idea. The problem would be if you can’t drop or swap how would you pickup? They’re not going to allow a drop then pick right back up at premium. If you had the day off and there’s few res it’s probably going to premium anyhow. Not sure that provision would work well enough to make it worth while. Focus on even distribution of premium. Keep it at 930 or move to 11 but if you want to move to 11 you now want something that’s basically worthless imo.
Not sure honestly I’m just thinking out loud
03-01-2023, 05:07 PM
#105
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Originally Posted by AlternateLaw
Yeah. I guess what i was getting at was if they won’t let you drop/swap something because the grid isn’t green (or it’s already at red) then maybe trips in open time after 09:30 should bypass reserves altogether, and just be mandatory premium at that point
Not sure honestly I’m just thinking out loud
Not sure honestly I’m just thinking out loud
03-01-2023, 05:14 PM
#106
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Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker
Especially considering premium should get fixed to a more equitable distribution in a new agreement.
Seriously, why should the COMPANY expend time/effort/money making sure Premium is more equally distributed?
03-01-2023, 05:45 PM
#107
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Originally Posted by dracir1
Why?
Seriously, why should the COMPANY expend time/effort/money making sure Premium is more equally distributed?
Seriously, why should the COMPANY expend time/effort/money making sure Premium is more equally distributed?
03-01-2023, 11:30 PM
#108
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Originally Posted by BufordT Justice
You’d think shelling out $2.5 MILLION per month in new hire bonuses would threaten the business model, but I guess not.
The whole point of the “bonus” program is to keep a few more people around that otherwise might not stay. Every person that stays is a sliver of time more that the company can push off coming forward with a contract. The company knows what their break even point is on “bonus” payouts vs. new contract. What that is, I don’t know. We’ll have a better idea when they finally come to the table.
03-02-2023, 04:19 AM
#109
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CBT pay for training needs to be fixed! This study for 5 hrs and get paid half is crap or whatever it is. Every crew member should get paid their hourly rate for CBT training. My time is worth my hourly rate, and that should include CBT training.
03-02-2023, 04:22 AM
#110
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Originally Posted by TurboFanMan
CBT pay for training needs to be fixed! This study for 5 hrs and get paid half is crap or whatever it is. Every crew member should get paid their hourly rate for CBT training. My time is worth my hourly rate, and that should include CBT training.
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