V4LKYR1ExONE

Our CBA is like reading the FARAIM, in that everything is carefully crafted lawyer speak and details are not easy to find. Reference section 25.E to find the specifics on days off for both Line and Reserve (non FDO) pilots. If we aren’t getting 12 days off with no known absences, then we need to figure out where the bidding software is going awry, and see if that can be remedied.

Can you explain why you think 12 days off is a joke? 12 days off is 40% percent of the month, which sounds pretty good to me, and as a reservist I’ve gotten even more days at home, for example this month I worked 9 days, with 4 overnights. The other 9 days I was on short call, I was just hanging out at my house, doing whatever I wanted with my free time. In sum I ended up with 21 days to myself, and this month was the most I’ve worked on reserve.

ETA: I see dashdriver found the better reference to days off. The faraim CBA strikes again. I wish this document was easier to absorb and navigate lol. But wouldn’t 18 RDPs in 30 days or 19 in 31 still produce 12 days off in the month?

OpenClimb

No. A “day” is 12am to 11:59pm. E reserves can be used until 9am the next day. D reserves can be used until 7am. C reserves can be used until 2am. The only reserve periods that actually get 18 days off are A and B reserves.

What’s worse is that for C through E reserve, they can run you until 2am the FOLLOWING day before you’re getting any additional pay because the first day wasn’t technically a day off. Even worse than that is that our minimum AVERAGE duty PERIOD does nothing to help the situation.

Either the negotiating committee and the union missed this the last go around, or they didn’t care. Neither alternative gives me warm fuzzies.

Blueskies67

The NC does not care about reserve rules. I don’t know why. Give guys 14 days off on reserve and maybe those junior 20 year Denver Captains will get some relief.

Cfii123

what base/reserve block do you bid?

and for LAS, which reserve slot(s) gets used the least?

thx

spooldup

I am more amazed our NC doesn't care about reserve when we have so many older people in DEN sitting reserve after 16 years at the company, and spending 2-3 years on reserve in Denver before even holding the worst lines.

ReserveCA

Seniority should not be a factor…..make reserve (15 days off) a choice for the homebody’s who like to be in their shop every day but within callout period….3 hrs short, 16-18 hrs long!

spooldup

yep, Like I said above, I would bid reserve all day long if I had a longer callout and more hard days off. It is a great thing for those who live in base. I just hate not being able to pick anything up and it limiting me to where I can live around my airport.

Xdashdriver

The NC hates reserves so much they managed to get FDO/3x6/half month lines in the the current contract as well as getting reserves the ability pickup on days off and pay above guarantee, and aggressive bid into days off. They also got reserves the ability to commute during the first 2 hours of their RDP, as well as negotiating an LOA for a removal before report policy. Considering the amount of ground they had to make up in the compensation section, among others, I think they did pretty well for reserves last time around.

V4LKYR1ExONE

Ah, thank you for the clarification. I haven’t done any evening reserve blocks so those details never occurred to me. I’ll speculate that the committee likely overlooked the potential issues here, much like the ‘min pay per duty period’ issue, where they presumed that trips wouldn’t be built with empty days, yet now we regularly see 10hr 3day trips with 24 unpaid hours at an outstation on day 2. It seems like a real waste of resources to me, but clearly the statistical analysis people building the trips think those trips are viable. I’m hoping the NC address that oversight this time around, but if not I’ll continue to bid avoid such inefficiency.

I bid RSA, that’s on shift a 0300, they can call until 1330, and must release me by 1700. In PHL I was used once a week, MIA once every 10 days, and MCO (my final base) about once a week, with an extra call here or there. In April I saw the most action, with 6 total assignments and 9 days of work.

As far as LAS, I’m not familiar. System wide, they use long calls first if they have the 12hr notice. LCR runs senior here, for example, I was able to bid a line with no red eyes in MCO before I was able to score long call. I’ll ask around to see if some of my classmates in Vegas can tell us what the reserve slot metrics are out there. It might be difficult to nail down those specifics though, I know most pilots are getting lines quick there, within 3 months of hire, which means they’re bypassing reserve completely and getting lines immediately after completing IOE.

ReserveCA

um , No…..
Bid into days off with 12 off nearly impossible (117 rules) and at CS discretion
RBR twice in ROLLING 12 months…….OOOOOOO 🙄
FDO goes to senior vac
3 X 6 do NOT exist…..
half month lines are NEVER awarded
compensation was inevitable

15 days off 31 day month, 14 in 30 day month
5 hr calendar power day credit
1 hr pay above min or motel every time RSL is switched to short
3 hr short call
16 hr long call