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spooldup 02-23-2026 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 4006067)
I think Biffle was making a good bit more than that actually.

The 747 number is funny. Wonder how they came up with that.

Remember when Barry told us that we needed to temper expectations and look at our peer's pay? then linked the bottom paying airlines in the industry including one in BK and some non union ones, as well as start ups?

Meanwhile he was what? 8m a year after bonuses for running the company from 20/share down to 4/share?

shrsailplanes 02-23-2026 06:05 AM

A spirit merger will never happen. If you guys are talking about Dempsey preparing F9 for sale or merger with someone else, then yes. That is what he’s been hired to do.

cfiflyguy77 02-23-2026 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by shrsailplanes (Post 4006084)
A spirit merger will never happen. If you guys are talking about Dempsey preparing F9 for sale or merger with someone else, then yes. That is what he’s been hired to do.

Who would be most likely to buy up or merge with F9?

shrsailplanes 02-23-2026 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by cfiflyguy77 (Post 4006092)
Who would be most likely to buy up or merge with F9?

United seems to really hate us. They would buy us just to throw us away.

Biffsteritis 02-23-2026 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by Nemack (Post 4006050)
i do, also with this aircraft move i do but it's such a huge gable with how spirit is right now, i would love to see jetblue and frontier merge but unfortunately on how things have progressed its utopia

I hope English isn’t your first language. It looks like our HR department mistook a Nigerian phishing scam for an application.

Nemack 02-23-2026 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by Biffsteritis (Post 4006133)
I hope English isn’t your first language. It looks like our HR department mistook a Nigerian phishing scam for an application.

thanks! very kind of you sir, no it's not my first language

Planedrive 02-23-2026 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by shrsailplanes (Post 4006094)
United seems to really hate us. They would buy us just to throw us away.

Now that Barry is gone Kirby seems to have set his sights on humiliating American Airlines in Chicago.

Kirby has a vendetta and he has been pretty successful thus far.

shrsailplanes 02-23-2026 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by Nemack (Post 4006160)
thanks! very kind of you sir, no it's not my first language

Careful. You don’t know who is monitoring this forum.

Nemack 02-24-2026 03:49 AM


Originally Posted by shrsailplanes (Post 4006297)
Careful. You don’t know who is monitoring this forum.

what? is this supposed to be a joke? go read the first and second point of the General Conduct of this forum

FlyingSlowly 02-26-2026 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by cfiflyguy77 (Post 4006092)
Who would be most likely to buy up or merge with F9?

JetBlue - Similar fleet and complementary networks. Can you imagine the disappointment at the legacies if a strong competitor could connect traffic in mid-continent and also run TATL from JFK on XLRs? JetBlue gains the west, and Frontier gains Europe. All with no widebodies and an efficient 2-type fleet! JetBlue needs some newer A320s too. Frontier would probably end up painted blue in this case. ;)

Breeze - They have a mainline hub-avoidance model that also complements Frontier. There are times where smaller planes circumventing the legacies are a good thing, especially compared to a 1/3 empty bigger one. Fleet and network would mesh in the sunbelt cities, but their model is more about avoiding direct competition, rather than undercutting it.

Now if all three (F9,B6,MX) merged, that would create a force to be reckoned with by the big 4 and a competitive market for consumers coast-to-coast with 5 major airlines in the US. A fleet of 513 planes (279+174+60) with orders for 287 (98+151+38) modern and fuel efficient aircraft in just 2 types would make them a force to be reckoned with. Especially if they preserved and combined the strengths of all three - JetBlue's service and reputation, JFK, and TATL, Frontier's cost efficiency, Breeze's smaller-market focus and lower frequency schedules where needed. Such a combination would only really then leave new Alaska, new Allegiant, and Avelo besides the big players...

It's seems a large fleet, broad network, and diversified revenue stream are the requirements for survival these days in the industry...


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