Originally Posted by ProperMike (Post 3755324)

This is the polo-rization I mentioned before. If I was in full uniform, would that have helped my case in getting on that flight? I don’t think so. They completely dismissed my presence and my logic of letting me on the airplane. The gate agents knew I was a pilot, the manager knew I was a pilot, and I’m damn sure the captain of the flight knew that I was a pilot because the gate agents all knew I was a listed pilot for the flight when they went back down to tell him the situation. What makes you think the gate agent would tell the captain that I was a passenger if they all knew I was an employee of the airline? Again, are we saying that if commuting or nonreving, we need to do it in full uniform so that you can be positively ID’d by the captain through a window as being a Frontier pilot? Where does it end?

Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker (Post 3755328)

Let our ALPA jumpseat committee know about this. Thier good at dealing with these sort of issues. Got bumped by a swa dh pilot on swa. Told our jumpseat coordinator and the next week the same gate agent was apologizing to me.

These things happen especially with all the new people in the industry but the union needs to know about it so it can get fixed.

Originally Posted by ProperMike (Post 3755299)

I was wearing my Frontier polo and black slacks, which my FO also wore. We packed out shirts and ties just in case they swapped us to fly a revenue flight, then we could toss our uniform shirts on. But otherwise, yes I looked professional, the other captain saw me and sent the gate agent up and things went downhill from there. My frustration lies in how long it took them to figure out whether I was the deadhead or not, they could have gotten me onto the airplane. But I couldn’t be more aggressive because then I’m just wrestling a pig in the mud and the other captain didn’t intervene on my behalf. That’s the portion that we need to do better with, looking out for each other in those moments where as a nonrev pilot you’re at the mercy of the gate agents.

Originally Posted by Salukipilot4590 (Post 3755387)

You didn’t do anything wrong at all, sorry if it sounded like I was insinuating that you had.

I’m just flabbergasted at the thought of a pilot seeing another pilot with a badge waving trying to get on and NOT getting that pilot on.

Originally Posted by ProperMike (Post 3755324)

This is the polo-rization I mentioned before. If I was in full uniform, would that have…………Where does it end?

Originally Posted by ColdWhiskey (Post 3755419)

I wasn't suggesting that you did anything wrong, just giving the benefit of the doubt that the Captain may not have realized that you were a Frontier pilot. If that Captain did realize you were one of our pilots, shame on them for not helping to get you on.

Originally Posted by TheBear (Post 3755421)

I award you 100 internet points.

Originally Posted by TurboFanMan (Post 3755437)

I’ve asked the gate agent multiple times in multiple cities if there is any Jump seaters waiting. The answer I have gotten from them multiple times is NO, only to walk up myself and find Jump Seaters standing there. My point is this, I wouldn’t believe everything a gate agent tells you! I’m not so sure that captain knew exactly who you were. Maybe he or she did, but I have my doubts.Also if that captain did, I’d love to talk to that a***ole.