Strike Vote
 

I assume a lot of people (myself included) are a little disappointed that we didn't achieve a 100%/100% vote for strike authorization.

However I think that we have to remember that we have a lot of pilots on the list that don't have any prior 121 experience. And not only that, we have a lot of cadets who probably feel that they owe the company something for giving them the opportunity. Additionally, there might have been 1 or 2 ex military guys who felt that striking would go against some of what they learned in the military.

All in all, I think the vote is good enough to effectively send a message to the company, the public and perhaps most importantly, the NMB.

It's a step along the road to a contract. Glad we did it. Thanks to all who voted yes.

agreed. I’m not surprised we didn’t get to 100%. I heard at least one line pilot in the training dept. didn’t even know there was a vote out….figure that one out. All in all still a solid turn out and without knowing the exact number of eligible voters, looks like around 60 did not vote. I guess they have their reasons.

You guys still had 99% vote yes though, right? Not bad at all. Go get 'em!

97/99% isnt too bad... It sucks it isn't 100/100, but I prefer this over seeing something in the low 90s. 97/99 is still insanely good and almost a "margin of error" Especially if some of those 1% maybe misclicked or someone didn't vote but thought they did, etc.

All in all, it sends a clear message and I for one am excited to stand with all of my fellow pilots and fight for the contract we deserve.

How many of that 3% will cross the picket line if we get that far ? I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if we strike.

I understand your reasoning, but I have 0 sympathy for cadets thinking they owe the company something... They are big boys now and need to understand the labor industry they are in. I honestly wonder if reality has hit them yet that their idea of being at Delta at the end of their contract is not going to happen. I'm still worried they will vote for some POS first draft, but time will tell I guess.

It's hilarious watching you guys be so desperate to blame everything and anything you can on the cadets. So much so that you're imagining some mentality that may or likely does NOT exist in any of the cadets at Frontier.

Good number of us are above the age of 30 and want a great contract. Yes, some of us want to move on, myself included. But we still want industry standard contracts for the time that we are here and for the peers we respect so much that want to stay here.

STOP and ENOUGH with stoking the flames of divisiveness in our pilot group about an imagined boogieman in your heads. The cadets are here to stay, and while many probably have ambitions of moving on, we need to help educate them on the current contract and our negotiations. None of them are "thankful" and feel they owe this copmany anything. At least none of the cadets I know, and for sure if they exhibited that mindset among our presence, they would be quickly shown why they shouldn't feel that way in a positive manner that wins their support.

I'm so tired of seeing these petty comments about our qualified peers.

That's great. I'm happy I hear that that is your attitude and believe the same of the other cadets. I certainly didn't intend to create any divisions among the group. I want us all to be 100% unified and I'm harpy to hear you are with us. We need it.

I was just trying to guess why we had a few people vote no.

Even Kim Jong-Un only got 99%, but sure he corrected that issue, lol. North Korea cites rare dissent in elections even as 99% back candidates Reuters

I'm a cadet in my mid 40's that is leaving or about to leave a lucrative career and would vote to strike for an industry standard contract. There are a lot of cadets that are existing professionals from all lines of work that understand the value of a good contract.

Dont forget the army of E3 visas you guys employ.

In the land down under you shake a tree and a pilot falls out. Those boys will do anything to fly an airplane. Good company men.

It's not any one group of people. It's a handful of guys and gals that are so out of the loop that they didn't even know this vote was happening/care enough about Frontier to take the time to vote. Seems crazy to most, but people with their own businesses, on a month vacation for wedding, personal tragedy, etc etc. Sucks. 100/100 was never happening. I was hoping for 99/99. Still not bad though.

https://www.npr.org/2022/11/01/11330...s-strike-union


delta voted with 96%



https://simpleflying.com/whats-the-l...abor-disputes/


alaska pilots 96%



doesn’t sound like we did badly.


We got this. Even the cadets who are on property are voting for the cause.

we can move on now with the thread. Thanks.

Exactly. 99/99 would be amazing, but this is still above the norm. I think its almost impossible to even get 100% participation lol.

sigh.....not you again.

The Aussies at F9 stood proudly alongside their American colleagues in this matter. If you would put your xenophobia aside for just a moment, you would realize that they actually have a lot to gain in this contract, considering their visa is tied to their employer.

I have a vision of you standing over a pile of dead koalas with a baseball bat at your side as it slowly drips blood. In your hip pocket is a letter that thas says, "For a 0.05% bump in seniority..."

It's more an inspiration for a political cartoon genre, if i could draw, I'd show you.

don’t waste your time with that guy. He/she has a sickness where they get joy out of trolling other pilots. There seems to be more and more of those recently on apc and social media in general. They bounce from thread to thread throwing grenades and the mods don’t seem to care as it creates more traffic for ad dollars.

It was only a matter of time until you emerged from your troll cave again wasn't it.

I'd argue that the E3 guys are not able to leave this place unless sponsored by another E3 carrier, so they want a quality contract just as bad as anyone else, if not more than someone just here as a stepping stone.

Does that %age include probationary employees that can't vote yet, or is it just voting members?

everyone on here pointing the finger but flies over 100 hours of block a month. Cadets are annoying but it goes deeper than that

Definitely point fingers at your colleagues. That goes a long way to foster solidarity.

That’s what makes this place (F9) so comical. The “think/do whatever you want, as long as it’s what I want” mentality.

Nothing says “unity” quite like “think like me or screw you!”

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Looks like quite a few news articles about the strike vote. Just google Frontier airlines news . (Just posted a couple- there’s a lot more).

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/frontier-pilots-vote-authorize-strike-2024-10-15/

https://www.denverpost.com/2024/10/15/frontier-pilots-strike-vote-airlines-denver/amp/

One good thing, I am sure we will see it asked about in our earnings call.

What’ll the excuse be?
• The Iceland Cucumber shortage?
• Operational difficulties due to 2024 being a leap year?

I was at Costco the other day and NO PUMPKIN PIE!

the sky IS falling