PHX Closure
 

FA’s are saying they’ve been told PHX is closing and they are scrambling looking for a base to bid into. Any truth at all in this?

I thought we were doing pretty well there, I’d be surprised if it’s true.

From what the FA’s are telling me they are shrinking it drastically on the FA side and somewhere they were told it’s on the chopping block. I know they’ve been shrinking the number of captains as well.

I'd be surprised. I was told by the base chief and by the director of training they want to considerably grow PHX. Guess we'll see.

You came onto a pilot forum to verify a FA rumor?!!! LOL. I’d play scratch tickets before I would put any bets on a FA rumor becoming reality. One-time, an idiot inflight manager accidentally announces the CHI base closure and now we’re vetting FA rumors from the line? Shame on you.

Confirm Autopilot on.
Verify FMA.
Close your eyes, and go back to sleep.

I’ve flown with two LCA’s since I first heard this rumor and they both said PHX will be closed by the end of 2025. Does that make it true? I don’t know, but more than just FA’s are talking about it.

It make no sense to close PHX. It is one of our mid sized stations between all of our bases.

Probably another baseless rumor (no pun intended)

I have no inside information or anything, but it's awful hard to run a day turn airline without a lot of bases. I automatically assume that no bases will close.

There’s a great deal of maintenance performed in PHX, the flights are full and there is an expanding number of common gates with the Terminal 3 addition. Someone is trying to scare people away from PHX, and suckers are taking the bait. Someone remind me, what’s the last base we closed? Meanwhile MIA and CVG have half the departures of PHX.

%100. Plus I first hand spoke with the phoenix base chief and the director of training both claiming they want to grow phoenix. Guess we'll see. I personally think this is a ridiculous rumor but I don't know anything more than any other pilot, which is to say, I don't have a clue.

UltiPro has an active vacancy for A&P Mechanic for Phoenix. F9 Company employee, not contract.

Barry wouldn't spend the 5 cents on electrons to post that vacancy if PHX was closing

Also: Barry's arch rival enemy #1, American, opened a 737 base in PHX. PHX economy is strong (in light of the overall national economy). Both SWA and AA consider PHX a hub airport. Barry loves legacy hubs. Just LOVES them. He can throw that 00:30 and 05:30 departure on the board and scoop up "free" passengers that are not loyal to either brand, but to, uh, cost. I don't think Barry, ever (except for the Chicago situation back in ?? 2022, which reopened in ??? 2023) has ever "closed" a Pilot base in a Legacy hub city. I could be wrong.

https://azbigmedia.com/business/econ...e-the-numbers/

https://www.azcentral.com/story/mone...y/77877342007/

https://eller.arizona.edu/department...onomic-outlook

Summary: My opinion is PHX is not going anyway, Pilot base-wise

Barry hack:

Before earnings, before the Facebook wife club, before most of that, early indicators are on UltiPro. If you see "Station Manager Vacancy - XXX-not-officially-a-base-yet Airport" listed, then the logical conclusion is you have a new base in the works. Same for "Maintenance Supervisor" etc. If they are filling management jobs at a "new" airport, for no apparent reason, that is called a clue. UltiPro can be configured to send you email alerts to your company email.

Only way I see PHX closing is if we went back to having less bases and more trips. Which I don't see happening. I think we see a new base before we see PHX or any other base close. Gotta park these 17 (2025 remaining deliveries) new planes somewhere.

Y’all are being trolled by a troll who's playing a game of phone tag with other trolls.

lolz

yah no way PHX closes. It’s a great market for us and a key domicile for connecting traffic through to the west coast.