Frontier Pros and Cons??
 

I don't see too much about Frontier on here. Does anyone have any information that they care to share? Is it a good place to work? and every other question that we ask when we want a job???:D

It would be a great place, were it not for the fact that the company is losing money at an alarming rate, and is under the onslaught of predatory competition in its primary (and only) market, Denver.

I have to agree with the response above. I wanted to go there before they took a pay cut on first year pay. I had a chance at an interview but elected to decline since it started to look a bit more unstable than it did a few years back.

I have heard it is a good place to work, but the uncertainties and stronger competion out there mean a long uphill battle for them to survive the next 5 years.

Been furloughed once and that was one time too many for me.

F9
 

In my 20 years of flying with numerous companies and bases, Frontier and Colorado has been an excellent place to work. The "perfect storm" of $104 oil, US recession, and SWA growth necessitates "Plan for the worst and hope for the best." But with our superior product, local pax allegiance, and company tenacity, we might just make it long term...
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what is the first year pay now? the payscales say 52 an hour.

I think APC shows the correct, and updated, pay scale. I believe first year at F9 is now $37/hr?

The good: Excellent place to work. Employee-management relationship is great, employees are mostly happy and love their job, great flying, some of the most flexible scheduling in the industry, nice equipment, holding up nicely against SWA for now...

The bad: Oil prices, losing money, SWA competing fiercely, one base only (if you commute)...

They will hire about 30 FO's this year from what I understand, some in April or May, some in June, some in November.

Everyone at F9 is hoping to make it in the long run, most try to do everything they can to help the bottom line, because they like working there so much, truly.

Good luck.

The contract we signed last year puts first year pay at: $36.67. The following years are the same that are posted here. As far as the company goes, I have to agree with Slyde 55. Great place to work and live, but who knows what is going to happen with $104/bbl oil. New CEO with new ideas that will take time to come to fruition, but the question is do we have the time? Since this company began there have always been stories of closing the doors in a couple of weeks. Sam Adams once came into an upgrade class to tell everyone not to purchase any homes or cars because we might be gone in a few days. 13 years later we are still here. Slyde 55 hit it on the head. Hope for the best, and each individual should plan for the worst. Enjoy what you have while you can, and make the best of the situation. F9 is an excellent airline with great people, and it would be a shame to see it go away, and I for one do not think that will happen anytime soon.

Hey Sweettails, can you give the 2nd and third year pay scales? $15K is a pretty big cut for the first year!

The following years are the same that are posted here.

Sorry, I tink I missed reading this. Just to confirm, the rest of the pay scales listed are the same? ONly the first year changed?
Thanks

In 1985, United pilots went on strike to prevent a B-scale from being imposed ton pilots who were not even on the property. In 2007, Frontier pilots ratified a B-scale cutting first year pay from $52 to $37 an hour, while the entire rest of the contract had approximately a zero net increase in pay. I guess I will add something to the bad.