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320ToBearz 08-03-2009 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by CANAM (Post 655046)
It's not a state issue. It's federal.

You obviously do not understand how our government works. Those state FEDERAL politicians (congressman and senators) call in favors to the DoJ and poof, its approved.

sizzlechest 08-03-2009 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 655624)
He sure seems to be growing Midwest. :rolleyes:

indeed.... MKE-LAX for starters. What an astute observation you made.

F9er 08-03-2009 06:28 PM

"Now RAH is in a similar situation and everyone wants to point fingers and blame RAH pilots. Who knows if this will all work for RAH, the chances are pretty slim, but if it does maybe someday RAH will be one of the "great" places to work"

Not a good comparison, RAH flies regional jets, SWA flew and still flies narrow-body mainline jets.

YXnot 08-03-2009 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by sizzlechest (Post 655813)
indeed.... MKE-LAX for starters. What an astute observation you made.

Thats funny, MKE-LAX was the first route I flew for MEH over 10 years ago.
Whats the crew cost on that 190 again? Pitiful.
Just curious SIZZLER, what routes were you flying in the late 90's?

Don't worry, I came through the C concourse yesterday afternoon. It looked just like D from several years ago. The damage is done. Southwests arrival is the final nail.

Good Luck

CANAM 08-04-2009 04:54 AM


Originally Posted by 320ToBearz (Post 655812)
You obviously do not understand how our government works. Those state FEDERAL politicians (congressman and senators) call in favors to the DoJ and poof, its approved.

I sincerely appreciate your civics lesson, but call me less than sold when you choose to use "poof" as a part of your debate. I'm obviously not as well rounded in the structure of the government as you, and I appoligise.

pilot124 08-04-2009 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by F9er (Post 655828)
"Now RAH is in a similar situation and everyone wants to point fingers and blame RAH pilots. Who knows if this will all work for RAH, the chances are pretty slim, but if it does maybe someday RAH will be one of the "great" places to work"

Not a good comparison, RAH flies regional jets, SWA flew and still flies narrow-body mainline jets.

What would you call the EMB190? You are right on one thing though it is not a good comparison. At RAH you don't have to buy the 170/175/190 type rating to work there.

Dougdrvr 08-04-2009 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by pilot124 (Post 656019)
What would you call the EMB190? You are right on one thing though it is not a good comparison. At RAH you don't have to buy the 170/175/190 type rating to work there.

True, you just pay for it on the installment plan with reduced compensation.

F9er 08-04-2009 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by pilot124 (Post 656019)
What would you call the EMB190? You are right on one thing though it is not a good comparison. At RAH you don't have to buy the 170/175/190 type rating to work there.

You have one 190, I wouldn't get to far ahead of myself in thinking you are sitting on a gold mine.

I think you are kidding, a rational person wouldn't make that kind of comparison. Right? :D

GAPILOT36 08-04-2009 10:34 AM

either way you look at it, you F9 drivers need someone to get u out of bankruptcy. But, u better hope its RAH cause you'll atleast keep your jobs. With SWA your Gone! your kidding yourselves if you think they are going to operate you seperate or even keep the pilots around. Even with the ****ty rates you still would have a job.

Kdog18 08-04-2009 10:49 AM

SWAPA fought to keep the Morris guys, as the right thing to do. They will do it again for the F9 guys. If SWA wins the August 10th auction, F9 will most likely operate for a couple years as they are now. We (SWA) are in the middle of our RNP transition (the final stage which will take a lot of seat / sim time in the big-D), once that is complete (Q4 '10 ish), and once the economy turns around :confused: we'll see WN take off again with regards to growth.

Once that happens, we'll have an asset of 700 plus "Southwest" pilots to draw into the fold. I figure once the integration starts, it'll probably happen rapidly. Dunno on Lynx nor the SWA poolies. This is all JMHO.

If F9 guys would rather accept the RAH bid, just let your Union Prez know.

I am gonna sit and wait, there is little I can do, but vote my conscience.


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