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zoooropa 08-17-2014 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by Jungle Rat (Post 1705050)
Intel on 227FR is it's a retro paint scheme, homage to the original Frontier. Sympathies to all who we're pulling for Nessie!

I saw the new paint and it looks good but the decal is HUGE, it covers the entire tail as well as the aft fuselage. I give it 6 months before the decal is MEL'd.


Originally Posted by NWSteeringArmer (Post 1705072)
FYI... today in ground, the instructor got message from the company of of nov, dec, jan, feb, mar and apr new hire classes of 12-14 each

The growth rumors being spread by Seigel are significant. I don't believe anything he says but he is suggesting 40+ new airplanes in the next five years. We have the orders with the NEO but original speculation was mostly replacement. We will see what actually happens...

Shifty 08-17-2014 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by NWSteeringArmer (Post 1705072)
FYI... today in ground, the instructor got message from the company of of nov, dec, jan, feb, mar and apr new hire classes of 12-14 each

What's your class breakdown? Total, DEN, CHI??

1900CA 08-17-2014 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by Shifty (Post 1707126)
What's your class breakdown? Total, DEN, CHI??

Everyone was awarded DEN in class. Some wanted CHI and and could not get it. 17 new hires and one returning from an LOA.

corporatedriver 08-17-2014 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by 1900CA (Post 1707243)
Everyone was awarded DEN in class. Some wanted CHI and and could not get it. 17 new hires and one returning from an LOA.

What is the quals for those in class?

Cross Check 08-17-2014 07:56 PM

Rumor is no significant increase in airframes until the IPO. They say IPO could be in 2 years.

Indigo doesn't want to spend a lot of their own money on airframes when they can wait for the IPO and have the shareholders pay for them.

Jungle Rat 08-17-2014 09:40 PM

Cross,
All kinds of rumors out there. With due respect to your sources, the math doesn't add up.
1. Indigo isn't paying for airframes; those on property in the next few years will be 'bargain' leases, which are complete tax write offs as operating expense. I'm sure NEOs will be leases as well.
2. Indigo's M.O. with Spirit was aggressive, steady growth as a tool to increase valuation
3. Current and forecast hiring is in line with the projections I heard last winter for a few more airframes this year (including the white tail in paint down at Goodyear right now), @10 next year prior to NEO deliveries.
4. How can we support all of the announced new flying with current airframes? I realize higher utilization is part of the model, but that will largely be accomplished via the increase in cdo's and redeyes.

Anyway, all conjecture at this point.

Rsv4lyfe 08-17-2014 10:24 PM

Do you guys foresee hiring going into late next year? What are the mins to be competitive? Do LORs carry much weight?

Barley 08-18-2014 04:21 AM


Originally Posted by Rsv4lyfe (Post 1707466)
Do you guys foresee hiring going into late next year? What are the mins to be competitive? Do LORs carry much weight?

Hang on let me ask our planning department.

http://revart.blogs.com/minister_of_...4/27/jambi.jpg

Cross Check 08-18-2014 06:27 AM

Jungle Rat, I heard that's what Siegle said in a recent ground school.

sulkair 08-18-2014 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by Jungle Rat (Post 1707460)
Cross,
All kinds of rumors out there. With due respect to your sources, the math doesn't add up.
1. Indigo isn't paying for airframes; those on property in the next few years will be 'bargain' leases, which are complete tax write offs as operating expense. I'm sure NEOs will be leases as well.
2. Indigo's M.O. with Spirit was aggressive, steady growth as a tool to increase valuation
3. Current and forecast hiring is in line with the projections I heard last winter for a few more airframes this year (including the white tail in paint down at Goodyear right now), @10 next year prior to NEO deliveries.
4. How can we support all of the announced new flying with current airframes? I realize higher utilization is part of the model, but that will largely be accomplished via the increase in cdo's and redeyes.

Anyway, all conjecture at this point.

So Indigo has successfully purchased, transformed and sold at least a handful of airlines around the world, correct?

Surely there is an aviation financial buff out there that has an understanding of how they did this each time. That person I am not.

Anyone know? Care to share? Can we reverse engineer a likely playbook?


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