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Old 03-27-2017, 06:58 PM
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Hey A319
You could come sit in RGS for me on the 19th so I could GLADLY picket!
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Old 03-27-2017, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Smokey23 View Post
SWA guy, here. Having just finally come out of four years of mgmt stiff-arming us for a new contract, it pains me to see that you guys also have some died-in-the-wool, anti-union types working against your collective best interests. For us, the union guidance during our negotiations was to wear a dark tie (preferably black!) and the union tie tack. I'm sure most of you who have any time in this business know what a love-affair many of our pilots had with the flag ties since Sept 11th....and I was one of 'em! Sadly, we have our share of A319's ilk on property and it was the same sort of mamby-pamby rationalizing from these guys how they couldn't possibly give up their flag ties: "Passengers love 'em!" "I'm a vet and it's a show of support for them!" and so on.... All are true statements, but NONE are an adequate excuse for not complying with your union's temporary request to provide a visible sign of solidarity until such time as a new contract is ratified. And just like A319, this crowd also parroted the same line that "nobody notices your tie/lanyard/bag tag, etc..." HOG WASH!!!!! Your management wants nothing more than to believe your union does not speak for you....and if enough of your pilots are so misguided/apathetic/afraid or JUST PLAIN ANTI-UNION that they cannot even take the simple step of putting on a lanyard that (I'm guessing here) just showed up in their box one day, well then management's view may just be correct and your negotiating committee will be that much more out-gunned. I promise you, management IS noticing!!!! They are testing your collective resolve and numbers matter!

So if you're not a lanyard guy--time to become one. If you're not already scheduled to fly during your first picket--time to move whatever mountains you must to get your butt to the IP. It WILL make a difference!

Best of luck to you guys/gals!
Excellent post! This thinking needs to rise to the top! A319 and Clear Creek's mentality needs to be flushed down the toilet, into the septic wasteland where it belongs.
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Old 03-27-2017, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by madmax757 View Post
You know Ms. Cleo died last year right?
Nah she just went AFK. I still feel her presence!
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Old 03-27-2017, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by A319 View Post
Wow. I think I must clarify what I mean. I definitely want us to be compensated as best we can be. I certainly want as much money in my pocket as I can get, especially with the company making as much money as it is. I am not "anti-union" by any means, I fully support our unions efforts and our pilot group. My whole point is that wearing a lanyard isn't going to solve any problems. And it certainly isn't anyone's business if I wear a lanyard or not. Also, it's no ones business if I start the APU or single engine taxi, that's my decision. However, I do support our efforts and hope that we do secure a great contract. Although, I don't think we will get a contract that is terrifically better than our peers, I think it will be along the lines of what our peers have now. If I'm wrong, then that's great, I'd love to be pleasantly surprised by the outcome of these negotiations. No, I won't be picketing on the 19th, because, just as with the lanyard, I don't think it is really going to help the situation.
Wow, you have, inexplicably, exceeded the idiocy of ClearCreek! If you have the mental capacity (which I very much doubt) look at United's narrow- body Airbus FO rates... do you notice how they are higher than Frontier's CA rates? Compound that with the fact that NOT ONLY IS FRONTIER MORE PROFITABLE, BUT, WE PUT A SIGNIFICANTLY GREATER NUMBER OF SEATS IN OUR AIRCRAFT THAN UNITED! Did the caps help, or do I have to speak slower and annunciate, like I had to with ClearIdiot?
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Old 03-27-2017, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Trowserchilli View Post
You have absolutely no idea what I've been through throughout my career.
Multiple bankruptcies done it.
Multiple furloughs done it.
Multiple contracts done it.
Multiple majors done it.
Thanks for your advice but I'll pass.

We have a union for a reason, we need to follow their instructions.
Hmm, you don't have multiple divorces?
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Old 03-28-2017, 01:08 PM
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Just saw this hit my Google Alerts

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...nd-quarter-ipo
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Old 03-28-2017, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by No Land 3 View Post
Hmm, you don't have multiple divorces?
From multiple flight attendants on multiple layovers 😕
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Old 03-28-2017, 02:57 PM
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Looks like we added San Juan flying today.
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Old 03-28-2017, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Blueskies67 View Post
Looks like we added San Juan flying today.
I think this article is telling about future bases. Specifically this paragraph:

"Philadelphia is a great success story for Frontier Airlines," said Flyr. PHL will be the fourth-largest airport station in the Frontier network this summer after Denver, Orlando, and Las Vegas, he said.

Link to SJU flying.

Frontier launches nonstop flights from PHL to San Juan, with $59 fares
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Old 03-28-2017, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Trowserchilli View Post
I think this article is telling about future bases. Specifically this paragraph:

"Philadelphia is a great success story for Frontier Airlines," said Flyr. PHL will be the fourth-largest airport station in the Frontier network this summer after Denver, Orlando, and Las Vegas, he said.

Link to SJU flying.

Frontier launches nonstop flights from PHL to San Juan, with $59 fares
So will it be bigger than Chicago ? No mention of that.
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