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Old 07-23-2018, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Patternholder View Post
If they need to grow the seniority list by 28 per month....they need to hire a lot more! Firgure 3-4 washouts per class....6-8 leaving per month and a handful of retirements. I’d say 40/month is a better target. Good luck!
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Listen, you and I both know this place hasn’t churned out 20+ a month since like mid 2016 or so.

There are 26 in class right now. Another 20 to 30 coming in august. I am all about discouraging people from coming here, but stick to the truth please. 500 in 18 moths is 28 a month, as someone else pointed out.
Its closer to what CG is saying but pattern is somewhat correct as well. I'd assume probably only an average of 1 washout per class. There are a total of 12 retirements next year. Most of them in August, so there is another 1 per month. Then, attrition, IF we don't have a contract I absolutely think it will increase but thats only if other airlines will pick up our guys. I would only assume 1-2 per month as average attrition and if we are lucky it will be higher.

So that brings the 28 a month to about 31-32. Either way still is going to become increasingly difficult as time moves on, UNTIL we have a contract, then it'll be easy.
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Old 07-23-2018, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900 View Post
In the chief pilots memo, pilot talk, he said we will grow 40% or 500 pilots in the next 18 months.

That's 28 a month.

Not exactly record breaking hiring. And 18 months is longer than a year for those who didn't understand that.
Thanks Aero, I see it now. Hasn’t this always been the “plan”? I smell a contract!
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Old 07-23-2018, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by I like BIG Bus View Post
Sorry aero your spin isn’t gonna work this time. 28 Pilots a month IS record breaking hiring for this place, and it is IMPOSSIBLE! You guys can’t possibly con 500 pilots to come to work at this place anymore, and it is logistically impossible for the company to support that kind of hiring. It is a flat out LIE, trying to get every last wide-eyed hopful through the door. Luckily, every regional pilot has figured out this place isn’t the least bit desirable. What would you like to say to the people in the last year you’ve hooked into paying for their own hotel who are commuting to reserve for $38 bucks an hour who just had their vacations cancelled? I’m sure to make this happen you guys will just cancel more vacations if need be. Don’t believe anyone who says we are growing that fast it’s a ploy!!! Frankly, I don’t know how you guys can look at yourselves in a mirror every morning and how could you feel good about saying this to people.

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So they will be able to do it. Whether they can get enough to show up is another question.
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Old 07-23-2018, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by singlepilot View Post
Whether they can get enough to show up is another question.
Until someone comes up with a vaccine for SJS, they will continue to show up.
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Old 07-23-2018, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SFA320 View Post
Thanks Aero, I see it now. Hasn’t this always been the “plan”? I smell a contract!
Yes, this is not an planned increase. We have a lot of new planes coming next year. 2018 was always going to be a slow growth year, and 2019 is a big growth year.

I don't know if the company can successfully add 500 pilots in 18 months. Without a contract, I think it'll be a real struggle
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Old 07-23-2018, 02:59 PM
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I heard F9 has 278 applications on file. Out of that many have been given a NFW after the phone screen. So another 150 new hires, then what?
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Old 07-23-2018, 03:20 PM
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I heard F9 has 278 applications on file. Out of that many have been given a NFW after the phone screen. So another 150 new hires, then what?
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Old 07-23-2018, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RSV A View Post
I heard F9 has 278 applications on file. Out of that many have been given a NFW after the phone screen. So another 150 new hires, then what?
When that number drops to -50 we will get a contract but no sooner.
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Old 07-23-2018, 07:03 PM
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No contract. ......
They will just charter miami air or sun country
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Old 07-23-2018, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by therapysession View Post
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We can agree on that mr management
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