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Old 11-28-2018, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds View Post
Why someone would go with GoJet when they have two wholly owned regionals they are considering?!? The flow on Piedmont is 5 years, no interview.
no, no it isn't.

much more than 5.
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Old 11-28-2018, 01:15 PM
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no, no it isn't.

much more than 5.
What is it then since you are at Piedmont? Do you regret going there?
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What is it then since you are at Piedmont? Do you regret going there?
A new hire? More like 7-8.

Regret it? No, but I also got on during the time where it was actually going to be 5 years. I'll flow in 5. New hires won't.
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Old 11-28-2018, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds View Post
Why someone would go with GoJet when they have two wholly owned regionals they are considering?!? The flow on Piedmont is 5 years, no interview.
Might want to re-check those numbers on a new hire today at PDT.

It’s the same as envoy for a new hire at 8-9 years without outside attrition.
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Might want to re-check those numbers on a new hire today at PDT.

It’s the same as envoy for a new hire at 8-9 years without outside attrition.
Just had a friend flow at Envoy at 8 years. Used to be 10 years. It should move to 5 for new hires.
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Depending on outside attrition I think flow for a new hire (key word) will settle around 7-8 years.

There are those who will flow in 5-6 that are currently on a WO seniority list that simply got lucky with their timing, but that shouldn’t be considered the norm.
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Problem with flow is momma aal has to keep her wholly owned staffed. They will limit flow for that. Mil is giving up as much as they can. So it will be off the streets that pick up for the increase in retirements
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Problem with flow is momma aal has to keep her wholly owned staffed. They will limit flow for that. Mil is giving up as much as they can. So it will be off the streets that pick up for the increase in retirements
They take 70% from their regionals. And, momma is already sucking their wholly owned’s dry. Thus, a street captain program for the 145 and 175.
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Just had a friend flow at Envoy at 8 years. Used to be 10 years. It should move to 5 for new hires.
It's not going to keep dropping. The 2016 hires got really lucky (happy for them, though!) and will flow in about 5.5. With all the hiring they've done in 2017-2018, flow will go back up.

Even Envoy isn't advertising a 5 year flow; they know it's more like 7-9 years for someone being hired today.
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Old 11-29-2018, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by scubadiver View Post
Delta has made no secret they are trying to reduce their regional carriers down to 3.. How likely do you think GoJet is going to be with continuing on a Delta contract? What do you think would happen to the company/pilots? Seems like the United contract wouldn't be enough to keep everything afloat.
Rumors from new hires is that management has said Republic is already working on a CRJ program. Rumor from Endeavor/Delta Connection CEO is Delta will have 3 regionals each flying CRJ and ERJ.

Our CEO said last year he wanted us to expand our Delta flying as Delta is our smallest partner. So I would not be all that surprised to hear we were bidding on your CRJ flying next year.

And our performance has been stellar lately. In October we flew over 28,000 flights and we canceled a grand total of 2 flights.

No matter what, 2019 could be and likely will be, a very interesting year for the regional industry.
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