Wynncore

It seems as though that 90% of people on these forums are convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that G7's demise is imminent, or at least their UAL flying is going to be shuddered, and every time those people have been wrong. While I do agree that this time seems different I'm wondering if there any GoJet pilots on these forums who also believe this? I mean, are these rumors also "hot" within the company and are people beginning to get nervous?

theclaw

I've heard no rumors.

3greenOred

One of my very good friends is a captain at GoJet and he too has not heard any rumors about GoJet going under and he’s a pretty straight shooter. He’s been there for about 3 years. I’m not saying it’s not true but you would think some of the pilots would have atleast heard something from management by now or atleast a rumor. My buddy is actually happy where he is. He’s getting his 121 PIC time and hopefully going to the majors at some point. He admitted that there are some holes here and there but overall he was happy and had some really good things to say. He’s trying to recruit me from the 91/135 side to the 121 side and actually had a GoJet recruiter get in touch with me yesterday about a DEC position. I just read all these post about how GoJet is done and this and that. Well everyone seems to think so except their pilots.

KyberCrystal

Nobody in management is going to talk about a shutdown or bad things happening until right before it happens. United and all of the regional top management know how this is going to play out. If they say something now they're going to have staffing problems when they're trying to make the fly transitions.

calmwinds

At this point, United management is waiting for the close of the acquisition of ExpressJet by ManaAir. Once that transaction is complete, I expect the news of who is losing CRJ700’s will be announced along with any retention packages. GoJet is losing at least 5 aircraft from its United CPA.

StlLifer

I believe:

Gojet is losing all 25 CRJ positions with United. I cannot come up with any other scenario where the math will work. Also, let us not forget the deal Skywest made when it sold Expressjet to ManaAir/United, Skywest gets another contract to fly 25 planes for United as soon as scope allows. That was not a worthless agreement as Skywest is pretty meticulous about things. I figure the opening of the next 25 slots is already known, so that even with Gojet losing the 25 United slots, there will be another 25 slots opening up. Would that be with Mesa, I believe they have 20, but that is just speculation. They are coming from somewhere.

For the past 5 years United as been wanting to get rid of the 700s, although it seems to love the 200s. It needs them for the Aspen/Eagle flying that Skywest does but other than they will not be flying 700s by the end of 2019.

I expect that Gojet will announce the end of the flying and that the planes are being acquired by Skywest. I believe as part of the deal we will have the opportunity to go to Skywest, in our current seats and to keep up to 10 years of pay credit. So a GJ pilot who has been here for 8 years will go to Skywest and be on 8 year Captain pay. His bidding will be at the bottom but the pay will be good. (Skywest already offers this deal, the only addition will be the keeping the seat position at the start).

The flying of the 700s will be for American as they increase their agreements with Skywest. Chicago, and DFW already and I think Charlotte and Miami will be added. This will be a good deal for everyone, especially the Gojet pilots.

That's my theory for today. (Often in error, but never in doubt!)

KyberCrystal

When do the 175s go in to service with Expressjet? Take that date and back it up by 90 days. Somewhere in that 90 days prior is when things will start moving around and announcements made.

Wynncore

Deliveries will occur in April 2019 according to an ALPA news brief on the award and flying operations will begin in the Summer 2019, if not prior.

Blackhawk

Don’t sweat it. This isn’t 2012 when Comair pilots were thrown on the street. As pointed out you will find a job the next day if you want. If anything you’re in a good position as you lose little seniority, will be the first furloughed by GoJet, and therefore won’t have to pay back any bonuses. And get another bonus with whatever regional picks you up.

Texxx

1. ....United has agreed to give SkyWest a priority position for 25 new dual-class growth aircraft,....

Priority position over who? That is not defined and is open ended. If CC was so smart he would have language such as...first right of refusal...OR priority over any other Airline.

2. This is correct up until UAL found out that AA was the majority share owner, 20%, of Mesa when they filed an IPO in July. There are other signs of this if you do your homework.

3. I wouldn’t bet the farm on this one. SKYW has a “soft landing” program BUT it only gives you your longevity for pay and benefits. Does not give you the ability to stay in your current seat.

So now let’s talk about a seniority list integration.

P.S. SKYW is having approx 5 pilot recruitment events 8n January.