Fact or Fiction- GoJet Pass Rate
 

Is this guy a troll? He says 75% of people failed the oral and/or sim at GoJet. Seems not true at all. Think everyone would know about it if so?

https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/e...pass-rate.html

The training is terrible and some of the examiners are @#$%^'s

Sometimes you get a class that doesn't work together and you get a high failure rate. You will have to work together and go beyond what training you're given to pass. In my class it was a 70% pass the first time around, only 90% made it to IOE.

I didn't think the examiners were unfair
 

Both of the examiners I had (oral and sim type ride) were fair...very thorough, but fair.
There were rumors of terrible examiners, but no one in our class had them.

I know it varies from class to class.

In our class of 15: 5 total didn't make it...
2 failed the oral - none of us were surprised - and 2 failed the sim (1 we were surprised, the other not)...one failed IOE...we were all impressed that he made it that far.

In the class ahead of us, only 1 out of 10 didn't make it.

Large percentage of the new hires were military rotorheads. (Bonuses can directly pay for the training.)
Some of them had trouble with the sim.

That guy looks unhappy. His posts from Boutique air to ExpressJet show his unhappiness and him inquiring on pass rates show that he struggles with training.


Sorry Froyd moment.


The people that failed weren’t a shock.


Mostly military guys.. with the checkride. 2 to be exact out of
18. One civilian guy who failed his oral. First 121 gig and did fine on the reshoot.

Here’s the deal most people that come to any regional only have that training to compare it to so if they fail it’s the trainings fault not their own.

Gojet I found to be fair and focused on what you needed to know to not only pass but be safe.

We had a guy from another airline who agreed while it could be better GoJet did a good job for what it is.

Memory items, limitations, know what every switch does and the limitations on that you have your oral almost down cold.

Checkride you’ll have 10 sim rides to get it and honestly it’s easier then AQP because it’s just the maneuvers. AQP puts you from flying a helicopter or a Cessna to being a line pilot flying a SID/STAR with very little experience.

Do folks get it? Of course but it’s just my opinion that new folks do better with learning line flying on the line.

Okay so recap: a lot of folks unhappy with base closer. It’s a kick to the gut for the long term folks.

All regional training is what you make of it.

Come to Gojet if it makes your QOL goals happen with the expectation that we’re in flux right now which could go really really good with the 550 or not.

If you’re flying a Cessna 182 please do yourself a favor and try to go fly a King Air or something.


I enjoy it here. The people make it worth it. Everything else I just chock up
to the typical regional mess.

Not sure what his story is... all I know is I’m skeptical of someone who starts a thread and never replies. The 75% fail thing didn’t smell right either. Sounds like the typical failure rate there.

Many people upset on our side to lose a base too (EWR).

I stand by what I said (actually I revised it to 50% which I feel is more accurate). The training was not good and the success rate was not good either. Out of 12, 6 made it to the line. Maybe it was an anomaly but it seemed the class before and after had similar issues. It could also depend on who your examiner is. There are a few that are know to be MUCH more difficult, especially on street captains. YMMV but this is my opinion.

First class of September 2019, 3 street CAs and 7 FO’s. Everybody in our class made it to the line.

Maybe things are getting better, or it just varies widely. I've been flooded by PM's that say the same thing that I said, but I guess everyone is afraid of being shamed. It's all good. I too didn't believe what I read when I was warned before training. I am not trying to dissuade anyone from GoJet. There is plenty to like and it can be a great fit for many. It's just in my opinion you have a higher chance of messing up. So study far beyond what you think you should and spend A LOT of time in the paper tiger room chair flying.

6 of 12 is not 75%


Hope that helps.

I was not trying to deny what you said, I really do not have that information, I just wanted to provide factual information about my class, which is the only info I have.

There was one individual who was known to be unfair, and an ********* in orals and had a high failure rate. But to be fair, the guys I know failed it were either unprepared, or just weren't going to make it anyway. I hear this individual is no longer doing orals, but I can't confirm that. YOU need to study and put in the work. If you don't, that's on you.

Airline training is tough, and people who don't know or haven't been though it before can easily get behind and overwhelmed.

so EWR closes . Everyone move to GSO ? Is that its senior ?

Chester the Molester ?

is the trainging AQP BAsed

Initial training is not AQP, but you will later transition to AQP training after 12 months.

So what the difference in the layout from AQP. Ive been told just try to be in a aqp based airline.

Basically in non AQP, you get training and a regular check ride, if you are receiving a type the maneuvers can not be repeated, in an AQP environment you are trained and evaluated as a crew, is more a trained to proficiency provided that you can complete all the maneuvers within the time allotted including the redo's. So GoJet has AQP, but just not on initial training, at least not yet.

super fair guy...if you suck then he will fail you...if you come prepared and know your stuff. NP. Had him many times...got scolded a couple times.
Made me a better pilot. I’m all for tuff check rides.

Spent 5 yrs at blowjet 4 as CA...no pink slips

My advice for all new hires: I have two types, and two positions as a 121 captain. I have one checkride failure from pre-Private through to today, and no oral failures. It is great to work with others and to drill procedures and checklists with others. But, to me, you do need to be able to train and prep on your own. Those who are unprepared, or those who just aren't trying like they should, can bring you down if you hang out with them too much. My sim partner for my jet type was a walking trainwreck. I got to the point where I told him that he was voice activated. He should not do anything unless I command it. I know that people can be unhappy to be "sandbagged" for the checkride when they get someone else other than their sim partner flying with them. But, I was kissing the ground on that one. To prep for tests, I would drill myself on questions for the oral, and chair fly consistently for the checkride. Establish a sustainable rhythm for yourself that keeps you sharp, but doesn't let you get slack, but also doesn't burn you out. Lock into that and keep it up until you are signed off to be a line pilot. Also remember, it isn't over until IOE is done, and your paperwork is all in. While wrapping up my jet IOE, I had a Fed Ride one direction, and the other candidate on that flight flew back. He didn't make it on his Fed Ride back, and didn't make it later on his second attempt. He went back to FO. It isn't over until it's over. Stay sharp and stay ready throughout the entire process.

Bottom line is, if you put the effort in, then should be no problems.

It really comes down to if you put in the time to study and learn the information, not just rote memorization. You do that, and you'll be just fine. But if all you do is memorize the information, when they ask a more in depth question and you can't produce the answer then they can see what the issue is. The instructors don't expect you to build the airplane in systems questions but have a working knowledge. I think that's fair.