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Riddlethirst 03-05-2020 06:01 PM

No longer hiring FO's?
 
Talked to a guy whose in the class behind me. He said he was told that Gojet is no longer hiring First Officers. Any validity to this? They just offered huge bonuses for pilots coming in February and March. Thank you.

Strenyakov 03-05-2020 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by Riddlethirst (Post 2990393)
Talked to a guy whose in the class behind me. He said he was told that Gojet is no longer hiring First Officers. Any validity to this? They just offered huge bonuses for pilots coming in February and March. Thank you.

That is what Trans States Airlines did a month before they announced they were closing down. If we are closing down we won't need any FOs as we can use captains in the right seat as we shrink down to zero planes.

Well, I would like to say that Gojet was great while it lasted, but it wasn't.

ansonjerome 03-05-2020 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by Riddlethirst (Post 2990393)
Talked to a guy whose in the class behind me. He said he was told that Gojet is no longer hiring First Officers. Any validity to this? They just offered huge bonuses for pilots coming in February and March. Thank you.

I just got a call today to do an interview for an FO position.

cursesRedBaron 03-05-2020 09:16 PM

Someone is feeding you bad info.
We're hiring like crazy, and offering massive bonuses. New hire classes every 2 weeks. Last class I saw was 20 new FOs.
Internally their asking for more experienced line pilots to teach classes or sims. All signs of massive hiring.
Maybe someone is confusing Trans States with GoJet?
Could be that the classes are full of TS pilots coming over for the next month or two. They did offer time credit for up to 15 years on the pay scale.

Cal446 03-06-2020 02:05 AM


Originally Posted by Riddlethirst (Post 2990393)
Talked to a guy whose in the class behind me. He said he was told that Gojet is no longer hiring First Officers. Any validity to this? They just offered huge bonuses for pilots coming in February and March. Thank you.

sending you a PM

Aikhme 03-06-2020 04:05 AM


Originally Posted by ansonjerome (Post 2990447)
I just got a call today to do an interview for an FO position.

Well done and good luck.

It's not a hard interview but study up on LIDO charts. And hopefully will see you at GoJet soon.

Beech Dude 03-27-2020 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by Riddlethirst (Post 2990393)
Talked to a guy whose in the class behind me. He said he was told that Gojet is no longer hiring First Officers. Any validity to this? They just offered huge bonuses for pilots coming in February and March. Thank you.

As of now they're still hiring. I have an interview scheduled. Into the pool if successful; Ive been told no classes until May.

paulhood 03-27-2020 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by Beech Dude (Post 3014172)
As of now they're still hiring. I have an interview scheduled. Into the pool if successful; Ive been told no classes until May.


Just FYI, pilots are being offered voluntary leave of absence at the moment, schedules have been reduced significantly, GoJet is not hiring at the moment, maybe interviewing but not hiring. Leaves are being offered until June. Also the arrival of the 550s has been stopped, we currently have 33 airplanes, and the rest has been postponed until further notice. When this virus craziness passes, all pilots on leave would have to return before new classes are started, so if everything goes well, probably August or September.

Beech Dude 03-27-2020 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by paulhood (Post 3014547)
Just FYI, pilots are being offered voluntary leave of absence at the moment, schedules have been reduced significantly, GoJet is not hiring at the moment, maybe interviewing but not hiring. Leaves are being offered until June. Also the arrival of the 550s has been stopped, we currently have 33 airplanes, and the rest has been postponed until further notice. When this virus craziness passes, all pilots on leave would have to return before new classes are started, so if everything goes well, probably August or September.

Thanks for the details. I was surprised reading about the add'l 20 550s they ordered in Feb and if that was actually still a thing.

FollowMe 03-27-2020 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by paulhood (Post 3014547)
Just FYI, pilots are being offered voluntary leave of absence at the moment, schedules have been reduced significantly, GoJet is not hiring at the moment, maybe interviewing but not hiring. Leaves are being offered until June. Also the arrival of the 550s has been stopped, we currently have 33 airplanes, and the rest has been postponed until further notice. When this virus craziness passes, all pilots on leave would have to return before new classes are started, so if everything goes well, probably August or September.

You do know a voluntary leave is not a furlough right? That’s like saying “Jim is out on a medical leave, so until he comes back you can’t hire anyone new.”

paulhood 03-27-2020 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by FollowMe (Post 3014571)
You do know a voluntary leave is not a furlough right? That’s like saying “Jim is out on a medical leave, so until he comes back you can’t hire anyone new.”

Do you work for GoJet, have you read our LOA?

FollowMe 03-28-2020 12:55 AM


Originally Posted by paulhood (Post 3014584)
Do you work for GoJet, have you read our LOA?

Do you, and have you? Feel free to point me where in the LOA or section 15 it says “if a pilot is on a leave of absence the company may not hire any other pilots”.

flyerforhire 03-28-2020 09:05 PM

I think that they might be trying to hedge their bets. Having pilots on voluntary leave is, at least, a good sign. Certainly better than furloughs. Doing some interviews during this downturn might allow them to get pilots in line for when classes resume.

TriStarPilot 03-29-2020 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by flyerforhire (Post 3015656)
I think that they might be trying to hedge their bets. Having pilots on voluntary leave is, at least, a good sign. Certainly better than furloughs. Doing some interviews during this downturn might allow them to get pilots in line for when classes resume.

The training footprint is approx. 90-95 days from Day 1 Indoc to completion of IOE. So it makes sense to have people in class right now that have started to finish up. Hopefully when they are done,some flying has returned and the company isn't too far behind.

paulhood 03-29-2020 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by FollowMe (Post 3014633)
Do you, and have you? Feel free to point me where in the LOA or section 15 it says “if a pilot is on a leave of absence the company may not hire any other pilots”.

i do and I have, and it doesn’t matter anymore, because the LOA won’t be signed.

FollowMe 03-29-2020 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by paulhood (Post 3016549)
i do and I have, and it doesn’t matter anymore, because the LOA won’t be signed.

In other words you can’t, why is it so easy for people to spout BS and so hard for them to admit their mistake. Thanks for playing.

hav3atps 04-01-2020 01:02 PM

Received an email offering to interview today.
They still hiring? Someone clicked the wrong button?
Asking in all honesty . Was quite surprised to receive it.

Thank you..

Beech Dude 04-01-2020 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by hav3atps (Post 3019918)
Received an email offering to interview today.
They still hiring? Someone clicked the wrong button?
Asking in all honesty . Was quite surprised to receive it.

Thank you..

I interviewed last week and got an offer. But as of now, its into the pool. No class dates yet. Good luck. PM me if you want.

hav3atps 04-01-2020 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by Beech Dude (Post 3019920)
I interviewed last week and got an offer. But as of now, its into the pool. No class dates yet. Good luck. PM me if you want.

Thank you.
Appreciate the quick reply.
I'll shoot you a PM this evening.
Best..

paulhood 04-01-2020 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by FollowMe (Post 3016780)
In other words you can’t, why is it so easy for people to spout BS and so hard for them to admit their mistake. Thanks for playing.

Well I guess it was signed after all. The LOA states that the reduction of pay is for the purposes of preventing furloughs, how can you justify your “need” to furlough while you are still hiring? And by hiring I mean someone coming in on payroll for full MMG. If you are interviewed and get a job offer, you have not been hired yet. That being said, No we are not hiring at the moment. Interviewing? Yes. Giving out job offers for whenever? Yes. When would whenever be? No one really knows, it could be soon, it could not.

Ihateusernames 04-01-2020 07:29 PM

Pay cuts never stop furloughs. Look at history. Max pay till last day.


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FollowMe 04-01-2020 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by paulhood (Post 3020288)
Well I guess it was signed after all. The LOA states that the reduction of pay is for the purposes of preventing furloughs, how can you justify your “need” to furlough while you are still hiring? And by hiring I mean someone coming in on payroll for full MMG. If you are interviewed and get a job offer, you have not been hired yet. That being said, No we are not hiring at the moment. Interviewing? Yes. Giving out job offers for whenever? Yes. When would whenever be? No one really knows, it could be soon, it could not.

So in other words your original claim that all “leaves” must be back online before anyone can be hired is patently false. And you’re now trying hard to walk it back through misdirection. Coming through Lima Chuck.

paulhood 04-01-2020 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by FollowMe (Post 3020296)
So in other words your original claim that all “leaves” must be back online before anyone can be hired is patently false. And you’re now trying hard to walk it back through misdirection. Coming through Lima Chuck.

Talking about misdirection. I did not say “leaves” must be back online before anyone can be hired. I said leaves would have to be back, given that the intention of the voluntary leaves was to prevent involuntary furloughs. Your claim however was that GoJet is currently HIRING, which is NOT.

paulhood 04-01-2020 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by Ihateusernames (Post 3020291)
Pay cuts never stop furloughs. Look at history. Max pay till last day.


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I wish the rest of GoJet pilots knew that :-(

LadyJustice 04-02-2020 10:01 PM

United wanted to cutback Gojet's flying just like every regional.

Mr. K would agree to shutdown the whole operation for the right amount.

FollowMe 04-03-2020 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by paulhood (Post 3020367)
Talking about misdirection. I did not say “leaves” must be back online before anyone can be hired. I said leaves would have to be back, given that the intention of the voluntary leaves was to prevent involuntary furloughs. Your claim however was that GoJet is currently HIRING, which is NOT.


Originally Posted by paulhood (Post 3014547)
all pilots on leave would have to return before new classes are started, so if everything goes well, probably August or September.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/walk%20back

Walk Back: to retreat from or distance oneself from (a previously stated opinion or position)

paulhood 04-04-2020 10:37 PM


Originally Posted by FollowMe (Post 3022193)
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/walk%20back

Walk Back: to retreat from or distance oneself from (a previously stated opinion or position)

Are you saying that “Must have” and “would have” mean exactly the same? If it does, then I apologize, I had a different understanding of it as English is my second language.


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