Furloughs
04-13-2020, 03:11 PM
#11
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Originally Posted by ASAPsafetyGUY
https://ravencareers.com/wp-content/.../GoJet-PDF.pdf
This totally is a furlough expectation to the objective eye.
This totally is a furlough expectation to the objective eye.
04-13-2020, 06:28 PM
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Things are constantly changing. Yeah 70% overstaffed is a huge number but the people saying that means that 70% are getting furloughed are incorrect. 70% overstaffed leaves 350 is pilots of the 600 on property. This memo also came out before it was announced those borrowing less than 100 million wouldn't need to give warrants associated with loans. Yeah RL doesn't come off as optimistic in the memo but its been complete radio silence since the announcement. Nothing good nothing bad just cricekts. We are all waiting like everyone else.
04-13-2020, 06:33 PM
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04-13-2020, 08:32 PM
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Mr. K doesn't let a dollar flow through his fingers without a fight, and it has never mattered to him if the dollar belonged to him or someone else.
The problem currently is confusion about whether he will get the money if he furloughs and therefore he has not furloughed. I believe he will soon find that he can still take the money even if he furloughs and so he will furlough.
The problem currently is confusion about whether he will get the money if he furloughs and therefore he has not furloughed. I believe he will soon find that he can still take the money even if he furloughs and so he will furlough.
04-14-2020, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by LadyJustice
Mr. K doesn't let a dollar flow through his fingers without a fight, and it has never mattered to him if the dollar belonged to him or someone else.
The problem currently is confusion about whether he will get the money if he furloughs and therefore he has not furloughed. I believe he will soon find that he can still take the money even if he furloughs and so he will furlough.
The problem currently is confusion about whether he will get the money if he furloughs and therefore he has not furloughed. I believe he will soon find that he can still take the money even if he furloughs and so he will furlough.
04-14-2020, 01:26 PM
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First off, how did a company memo end up on the public internet? NVM. Second, the CARES Act says you need to keep 90% of your staff. There's still wiggle room to furlough. I don't see how we don't furlough, but what do I know. Know one knows but management and they are being real tight lipped about it. So what good does speculation do?
I would also suspect that no airline wants to furlough people and then need to turn around and bring them back a short time later. I think by now, we all know this will be a slow recovery, but furloughing half of your pilots while the government is talking about opening back up would be a mistake. They have no idea what will happen once they open back up, hence the hesitation to furlough.
I would also suspect that no airline wants to furlough people and then need to turn around and bring them back a short time later. I think by now, we all know this will be a slow recovery, but furloughing half of your pilots while the government is talking about opening back up would be a mistake. They have no idea what will happen once they open back up, hence the hesitation to furlough.
04-14-2020, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by too low gear
First off, how did a company memo end up on the public internet? NVM. Second, the CARES Act says you need to keep 90% of your staff. There's still wiggle room to furlough. I don't see how we don't furlough, but what do I know. Know one knows but management and they are being real tight lipped about it. So what good does speculation do?
I would also suspect that no airline wants to furlough people and then need to turn around and bring them back a short time later. I think by now, we all know this will be a slow recovery, but furloughing half of your pilots while the government is talking about opening back up would be a mistake. They have no idea what will happen once they open back up, hence the hesitation to furlough.
I would also suspect that no airline wants to furlough people and then need to turn around and bring them back a short time later. I think by now, we all know this will be a slow recovery, but furloughing half of your pilots while the government is talking about opening back up would be a mistake. They have no idea what will happen once they open back up, hence the hesitation to furlough.
04-15-2020, 10:11 AM
#20
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Originally Posted by Feliz6
Give management a chance to navigate through this, new territory for everyone. Can speculate all we want but need the company to do what it takes to stay in business or furlough question is just academic.
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