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KelvinHelmholtz 07-29-2021 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3270746)
They were a disaster with Delta in NYC. Everyone called them no jet because they never seemed able to produce one.

Partially that was because they staffed the flying largely from a RDU outstation base. It wouldn’t surprise me if they tried the same thing just this time with RIC instead. GoJet didn’t make it long in NYC until they got transferred to doing pretty much only DTW ops, possibly the easiest hub in the Delta system. Similarly, Mesa/Freedom failed so hard in NYC they got their Delta operation moved to CVG until the lawsuit cancelling their CPA was complete.

It doesn’t seem like United has historically cared about customer service and experience on their regional product, but this seems to be changing. I give GoJet maybe 2 years tops in the NYC market this time

MrIncredible 07-29-2021 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by KelvinHelmholtz (Post 3270762)
Partially that was because they staffed the flying largely from a RDU outstation base. It wouldn’t surprise me if they tried the same thing just this time with RIC instead. GoJet didn’t make it long in NYC until they got transferred to doing pretty much only DTW ops, possibly the easiest hub in the Delta system. Similarly, Mesa/Freedom failed so hard in NYC they got their Delta operation moved to CVG until the lawsuit cancelling their CPA was complete.

It doesn’t seem like United has historically cared about customer service and experience on their regional product, but this seems to be changing. I give GoJet maybe 2 years tops in the NYC market this time


Why would it be GoJets fault if it didn’t do well in the NYC market? United wants more 550 flying into EWR.

We just do what we’re told. United gives us a schedule, we fly it.

KelvinHelmholtz 07-29-2021 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by MrIncredible (Post 3270810)
Why would it be GoJets fault if it didn’t do well in the NYC market? United wants more 550 flying into EWR.

We just do what we’re told. United gives us a schedule, we fly it.

Delta gave GoJet NYC flying. They did it so poorly that Delta transferred most of their operation to DTW. Their performance got better but not enough to prevent the entire CPA being cancelled.

There are regionals with a strong track record of success in NYC flying (see Endeavor and Republic). Trans States Holdings has never been successful here.

MrIncredible 07-29-2021 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by KelvinHelmholtz (Post 3270830)
Delta gave GoJet NYC flying. They did it so poorly that Delta transferred most of their operation to DTW. Their performance got better but not enough to prevent the entire CPA being cancelled.

There are regionals with a strong track record of success in NYC flying (see Endeavor and Republic). Trans States Holdings has never been successful here.

Okay that was Delta flying. United and Delta operate out of two completely different airports.

When we’re delayed out of EWR, it’s not our fault. It’s ATC.

United wants the 550 in EWR cause it’s premium market is bigger than ORD

Our on time performance is actually not that bad out of EWR with the one runway they’re using

sailingfun 07-30-2021 03:52 AM


Originally Posted by MrIncredible (Post 3270810)
Why would it be GoJets fault if it didn’t do well in the NYC market? United wants more 550 flying into EWR.

We just do what we’re told. United gives us a schedule, we fly it.

Once your given a schedule the expectation is that you will actually show up with aircraft and fly that schedule. In the past GO jet has been unable to do that.

gojo 07-30-2021 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by MrIncredible (Post 3270844)
Okay that was Delta flying. United and Delta operate out of two completely different airports.

When we’re delayed out of EWR, it’s not our fault. It’s ATC.

United wants the 550 in EWR cause it’s premium market is bigger than ORD

Our on time performance is actually not that bad out of EWR with the one runway they’re using

Really? There are many ways to incur a delay. And operating in the NE is challenging at times. GoJet didn’t handle it well before. Hopefully they’ve learned from their past experiences

ninerdriver 07-30-2021 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by MrIncredible (Post 3270810)
Why would it be GoJets fault if it didn’t do well in the NYC market?

Because almost every other regional assigned to NYC doesn't fail in NYC.

Even OO almost got the hang of it. (Kidding! Kind of. They figured it out after they blew it with the O'Hare shuttle.)

core4isb2 07-30-2021 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by MrIncredible (Post 3270731)
They’re still there. What did you need

He wants out of C5, that's what he wants!

brockenspectre 08-01-2021 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 3271239)
Because almost every other regional assigned to NYC doesn't fail in NYC.

Even OO almost got the hang of it. (Kidding! Kind of. They figured it out after they blew it with the O'Hare shuttle.)

Too bad you guys didn't have 175's to run those NYC runs as a stop gap until DL could get the 220's online. Easy cheap shot to make when you guys had no way to do it, when you probably should have. Once again, picking up the slack the other regionals cannot seem to handle.

gojo 08-01-2021 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by brockenspectre (Post 3271998)
Too bad you guys didn't have 175's to run those NYC runs as a stop gap until DL could get the 220's online. Easy cheap shot to make when you guys had no way to do it, when you probably should have. Once again, picking up the slack the other regionals cannot seem to handle.

Oh no, what happened here?😢


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