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Old 07-29-2021, 12:45 PM
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They were a disaster with Delta in NYC. Everyone called them no jet because they never seemed able to produce one.
Partially that was because they staffed the flying largely from a RDU outstation base. It wouldn’t surprise me if they tried the same thing just this time with RIC instead. GoJet didn’t make it long in NYC until they got transferred to doing pretty much only DTW ops, possibly the easiest hub in the Delta system. Similarly, Mesa/Freedom failed so hard in NYC they got their Delta operation moved to CVG until the lawsuit cancelling their CPA was complete.

It doesn’t seem like United has historically cared about customer service and experience on their regional product, but this seems to be changing. I give GoJet maybe 2 years tops in the NYC market this time
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Old 07-29-2021, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by KelvinHelmholtz View Post
Partially that was because they staffed the flying largely from a RDU outstation base. It wouldn’t surprise me if they tried the same thing just this time with RIC instead. GoJet didn’t make it long in NYC until they got transferred to doing pretty much only DTW ops, possibly the easiest hub in the Delta system. Similarly, Mesa/Freedom failed so hard in NYC they got their Delta operation moved to CVG until the lawsuit cancelling their CPA was complete.

It doesn’t seem like United has historically cared about customer service and experience on their regional product, but this seems to be changing. I give GoJet maybe 2 years tops in the NYC market this time

Why would it be GoJets fault if it didn’t do well in the NYC market? United wants more 550 flying into EWR.

We just do what we’re told. United gives us a schedule, we fly it.
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Old 07-29-2021, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MrIncredible View Post
Why would it be GoJets fault if it didn’t do well in the NYC market? United wants more 550 flying into EWR.

We just do what we’re told. United gives us a schedule, we fly it.
Delta gave GoJet NYC flying. They did it so poorly that Delta transferred most of their operation to DTW. Their performance got better but not enough to prevent the entire CPA being cancelled.

There are regionals with a strong track record of success in NYC flying (see Endeavor and Republic). Trans States Holdings has never been successful here.
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Old 07-29-2021, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by KelvinHelmholtz View Post
Delta gave GoJet NYC flying. They did it so poorly that Delta transferred most of their operation to DTW. Their performance got better but not enough to prevent the entire CPA being cancelled.

There are regionals with a strong track record of success in NYC flying (see Endeavor and Republic). Trans States Holdings has never been successful here.
Okay that was Delta flying. United and Delta operate out of two completely different airports.

When we’re delayed out of EWR, it’s not our fault. It’s ATC.

United wants the 550 in EWR cause it’s premium market is bigger than ORD

Our on time performance is actually not that bad out of EWR with the one runway they’re using
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Originally Posted by MrIncredible View Post
Why would it be GoJets fault if it didn’t do well in the NYC market? United wants more 550 flying into EWR.

We just do what we’re told. United gives us a schedule, we fly it.
Once your given a schedule the expectation is that you will actually show up with aircraft and fly that schedule. In the past GO jet has been unable to do that.
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Old 07-30-2021, 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by MrIncredible View Post
Okay that was Delta flying. United and Delta operate out of two completely different airports.

When we’re delayed out of EWR, it’s not our fault. It’s ATC.

United wants the 550 in EWR cause it’s premium market is bigger than ORD

Our on time performance is actually not that bad out of EWR with the one runway they’re using
Really? There are many ways to incur a delay. And operating in the NE is challenging at times. GoJet didn’t handle it well before. Hopefully they’ve learned from their past experiences
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Old 07-30-2021, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MrIncredible View Post
Why would it be GoJets fault if it didn’t do well in the NYC market?
Because almost every other regional assigned to NYC doesn't fail in NYC.

Even OO almost got the hang of it. (Kidding! Kind of. They figured it out after they blew it with the O'Hare shuttle.)
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They’re still there. What did you need
He wants out of C5, that's what he wants!
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Originally Posted by ninerdriver View Post
Because almost every other regional assigned to NYC doesn't fail in NYC.

Even OO almost got the hang of it. (Kidding! Kind of. They figured it out after they blew it with the O'Hare shuttle.)
Too bad you guys didn't have 175's to run those NYC runs as a stop gap until DL could get the 220's online. Easy cheap shot to make when you guys had no way to do it, when you probably should have. Once again, picking up the slack the other regionals cannot seem to handle.
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Originally Posted by brockenspectre View Post
Too bad you guys didn't have 175's to run those NYC runs as a stop gap until DL could get the 220's online. Easy cheap shot to make when you guys had no way to do it, when you probably should have. Once again, picking up the slack the other regionals cannot seem to handle.
Oh no, what happened here?😢
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