Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot (Post 3197496)

Fair enough, but that diversification only goes as far as the health of the lessee. I doubt JO would even lease the acft. to GJ except that United is guaranteeing the payments. OO already cut them off because they couldn't pay. I don't know the history of OO leasing airframes but I would guess they do it because they got stuck with acft. they owned but couldn't place just like Mesa. I doubt it was a deliberate business decision but will stand corrected if they went out and bought aircraft for the purpose of leasing them out.

Remember Mesa is the only passenger airline in the US that made a full year profit in 2020. All quarters. Why would JO want to take on the counter party risk of a lease when he has shown that he can operate those airframes at a profit? I repeat, he specifically said in a conference call that he wanted to operate those airframes as 550s for United but that if that didn't work out he would lease or park them. That doesn't sound like a man wanting to get into the leasing business. Would he turn down the money? Of course not, but that doesn't mean it is plan A.

Originally Posted by colive10 (Post 3197735)

If you gathered all the factually correct statements on APC ever, it would take up less than a page. Add this to the background noise.

Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot (Post 3197797)

Please enlighten us with the facts then.

Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 3198077)

737s are coming to Mesa.

Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot (Post 3198117)

Never!!!!! Why would they do that when they could just skip the headaches and lease them out to a competitor?

Originally Posted by PreciousCargo (Post 3198374)

dude i think he's just trolling you.:D

Originally Posted by prt135 (Post 3201755)

GoJet is hiring apparently. Are all furloughees back on property? How many are they hiring?

Originally Posted by moonraker9 (Post 3201776)

Don't see that on their site, are CJO holders being called for class?

Originally Posted by PossibleDeviation (Post 3201810)

Good news but I wouldn't hold my breath...... If either Skywest or Mesa decides they'd fly the 550, it's CYA G7

Originally Posted by moonraker9 (Post 3201825)

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...300790427.html

This article says Gojet has a 10 year contract to fly the 550... can this be canned if skywest or mesa step up?

Originally Posted by moonraker9 (Post 3201825)

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...300790427.html



This article says Gojet has a 10 year contract to fly the 550... can this be canned if skywest or mesa step up?

Originally Posted by S0NNY (Post 3202045)

They are hiring A&P’s the ad on Facebook says.
And the total contracted to be converted so far is 74. They have 38 flying and as it’s been said on a few forums they’ve started converting the Mesa planes as we speak. That contract for those through Mesa is 9 years. 10 years through Skywest. 9 more years on the 10 year contract with United.
I would say hiring pilots by June if air travel keeps going the way it is. The April schedule released has a lot of 550 flying and it’ll only increase as more and more get converted.

Originally Posted by moonraker9 (Post 3201825)

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...300790427.html

This article says Gojet has a 10 year contract to fly the 550... can this be canned if skywest or mesa step up?

Originally Posted by AkPilot99 (Post 3201902)

This is the reply I got.
“ Due to COVID-19 and the impact it has had on the airline industry, we have temporarily paused interviews for new hire pilots. We will keep your application on file and will reach out as soon as we resume the hiring process.

However, in the meantime, please feel free to reach out to [email protected] with any questions that you may have.”

Originally Posted by moonraker9 (Post 3201776)

Don't see that on their site, are CJO holders being called for class?

Originally Posted by PossibleDeviation (Post 3202167)

If OO wanted to fly the 550s, they'd be flying the 550s. 10 year contracts don't matter if they can't pay for their airplanes...

Originally Posted by S0NNY (Post 3202045)

They are hiring A&P’s the ad on Facebook says.
And the total contracted to be converted so far is 74. They have 38 flying and as it’s been said on a few forums they’ve started converting the Mesa planes as we speak. That contract for those through Mesa is 9 years. 10 years through Skywest. 9 more years on the 10 year contract with United.
I would say hiring pilots by June if air travel keeps going the way it is. The April schedule released has a lot of 550 flying and it’ll only increase as more and more get converted.

Originally Posted by Flyinlynn (Post 3202532)

Starting Captain pay: $70.81/flight hour

Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 3202991)

Holy crap. I almost make that as an FO.

Originally Posted by Av8rPHX (Post 3202547)

Makes sense for SkyBest to wait until the conversions are done before swooping in. Less expenses on their part.


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Originally Posted by suffern060 (Post 3246768)

The truth is, G7 is in fact holding their head slight above water. In the last 90 days they have lost over 150 pilots. They are placing bets on attracting new hires with Aviate… which is all seniority driven. That and three flows which are really not flows at all. They only serve two purposes. 1. To falsely attract pilots. 2. To restrict pilots who are on property from applying outside the flow. They are merely a way to somewhat control attrition.

If G7 cannot staff their own airline, United will simply pull the contract… that simple. The flying would then go to SkyWest… they own the aircraft now.

The demise of the airline is coming. Upper management has no interest in improving the current CBA… and now that the 550 is solely on property… they want 50 seat pay rates… so you all can sit and think about that for a while…

Originally Posted by MrIncredible (Post 3246952)

Being negative only makes your journey negative.
Just because you’re given a cactus doesn’t mean you have to sit on it. But hey. If that’s you’re style. By all means continue with that attitude. It will get you no where in life.

Originally Posted by MrIncredible (Post 3246952)

Being negative only makes your journey negative.
Just because you’re given a cactus doesn’t mean you have to sit on it. But hey. If that’s you’re style. By all means continue with that attitude. It will get you no where in life.

Originally Posted by MrIncredible (Post 3246952)

Being negative only makes your journey negative.
Just because you’re given a cactus doesn’t mean you have to sit on it. But hey. If that’s you’re style. By all means continue with that attitude. It will get you no where in life.

Originally Posted by suffern060 (Post 3247358)

I do not have the tenacity to state anything other than the truth. If you and others here want to live in fantasy land, by all means do so and continue to drink the coo laid. Just today G7 cancelled all vacations for July, so once again the company has no interest in their employees...The bottom line is, those who are considering coming to this place of employment should consider all the FACTS as they currently stand and not the smoke and mirror BS that is fed to them by the company.

Originally Posted by suffern060 (Post 3247358)

I do not have the tenacity to state anything other than the truth. If you and others here want to live in fantasy land, by all means do so and continue to drink the coo laid. Just today G7 cancelled all vacations for July, so once again the company has no interest in their employees...The bottom line is, those who are considering coming to this place of employment should consider all the FACTS as they currently stand and not the smoke and mirror BS that is fed to them by the company.

Originally Posted by MrIncredible (Post 3247473)

Sometimes a company has to make sacrifices.