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learnfromhistor 06-11-2021 01:14 PM

Richmond Added
 
Speaking of growth, Richmond just got added as a crew base.

Rhoads287 06-11-2021 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by learnfromhistor (Post 3248649)
Speaking of growth, Richmond just got added as a crew base.

really? Wow that’s good news

Tankerds 06-22-2021 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by suffern060 (Post 3247530)
Sacrifices? You mean the Pilots, right? You know what is interesting... I did not see management make any real sacrifices during COVID...they took a 10% pay cut... that was it. I do not see the company wanting to do anything about actually getting people on property... like bringing our contract up to industry standard.... Seems to me like management is ready to exist the stage and leave the Pilots holding the bag. The Pilots who have been at G7 for any length of time have sacrificed enough. If the company wants to continue to play games they will loose. They have always been reactive and not proactive in everything they do and sooner or later it will bight them in the ass.


Yep unfortunately holdings is a joke of company, and they will run Gojet into the ground just like they did with Compass and TSA. It’s just a matter of time, all this is just a bandaid on a stab wound. Sooner or later United will cut ties with Gojet and that’ll be all she wrote, because Gojet management is unwilling to be competitive with pay/advancing market share. Holding on by a thin thin thread.


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TransWorld 06-22-2021 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by Tankerds (Post 3253357)
Yep unfortunately holdings is a joke of company, and they will run Gojet into the ground just like they did with Compass and TSA. It’s just a matter of time, all this is just a bandaid on a stab wound. Sooner or later United will cut ties with Gojet and that’ll be all she wrote, because Gojet management is unwilling to be competitive with pay/advancing market share. Holding on by a thin thin thread.

The sword of Damocles. He could not believe his good luck, wining and dining on the finest, until he looked up. A shining, razor sharp sword was directly above him. It was suspended by a single horse hair.

Tankerds 06-22-2021 01:15 PM

GoJet Growth
 

Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3253361)
The sword of Damocles. He could not believe his good luck, wining and dining on the finest, until he looked up. A shining, razor sharp sword was directly above him. It was suspended by a single horse hair.


Sums it up well. The fire at TSH HQ started on the first floor (Compass), took out the second soon after (TSA), and it’s only a matter of time before it gets the third. What does anyone expect when you have someone like RL and HK making decisions? [emoji23]

Bombardier Stev 06-22-2021 01:21 PM

Did pilots who were already at GoJet who had previous airline experience,before they started, get the 1:1 longevity increase, or did only new hires get that?

GojetFires 06-27-2021 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by Bombardier Stev (Post 3253364)
Did pilots who were already at GoJet who had previous airline experience,before they started, get the 1:1 longevity increase, or did only new hires get that?

Let me give you perspective of a GoJet pilot. You've got to understand that GoJet pilots do not have balls. Everyone had them but somewhere along the way they have all been lost. We take what we are given and we pretend we are satisfied. We let the company pay outside of the CBA and then we come up with reasons to conclude that they are actually allowed to do what they are doing. Rather than pilots being given a raise, we let the company pay only the new guys big bonuses. We rationalize how in the long run it is better for each of us. When the company doesn't actually pay the bonuses because of one excuse or the other, we welcome the new guys to the club, the ball-less, and we feel sorry for them. We hope they will make it out one day.

The CBA has ended. We will fantasize about getting more than Skywest because of the pilot shortage. In the end they will up the hourly rate to make us feel good saying we have the highest pay scale but in realty our pay will be 20 to 30% lower. We have all been hurt. We miss our balls.

So to answer your question with a question, do you think the company would give all the pilots a longevity increase when they could just pay the new guy?

But I have high hopes for GoJet. To get the pilots there will be a big raise with lots of new planes. This is the place to be at this moment in time! Opportunity knocks!

MrIncredible 06-30-2021 10:50 AM

GoJets management may be an absolute disgrace to the industry as a whole. Not as bad as people think. Just depends on who you ask. I’m not cheering managment for their success. If you do something wrong, their will be consequences. Some people find that hard to believe.

After United announcement yesterday, I don’t think GoJet is folding anytime soon. We’re getting more and more flying and more 550 conversions. We’re growing like crazy!

We’ve already received a few CRJ700s from Nordica Airlines that are currently sitting in STL waiting to be converted.
This also includes a lot of the MJ tails we’ve already received from Mesa and fully converted and flying as we speak.

Luckily the company is meetings it’s goals on pilot recruitment. Had 36 in one class 2 weeks ago. We just need more check airman and Captains. That’s gonna be our struggle for awhile. This isn’t a bad place to be, it’s just a stepping stone. If you wanna fly, and basically have no reserve. This might not be a bad place.

idlethrust 06-30-2021 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by MrIncredible (Post 3257026)
GoJets management may be an absolute disgrace to the industry as a whole. Not as bad as people think. Just depends on who you ask. I’m not cheering managment for their success. If you do something wrong, their will be consequences. Some people find that hard to believe.

After United announcement yesterday, I don’t think GoJet is folding anytime soon. We’re getting more and more flying and more 550 conversions. We’re growing like crazy!

We’ve already received a few CRJ700s from Nordica Airlines that are currently sitting in STL waiting to be converted.
This also includes a lot of the MJ tails we’ve already received from Mesa and fully converted and flying as we speak.

Luckily the company is meetings it’s goals on pilot recruitment. Had 36 in one class 2 weeks ago. We just need more check airman and Captains. That’s gonna be our struggle for awhile. This isn’t a bad place to be, it’s just a stepping stone. If you wanna fly, and basically have no reserve. This might not be a bad place.

I expect to see a few jr fo’s from zw to make the jump . Some that I spoke to are in the process of updating their airline apps and are expected to make a lateral move .

Claxstarr 06-30-2021 03:16 PM

Does anyone know what the 550 lease contracts look like? I’m curious as to if they’re contracted for a certain number of years or if it is structured another way.

MrIncredible 06-30-2021 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by Claxstarr (Post 3257213)
Does anyone know what the 550 lease contracts look like? I’m curious as to if they’re contracted for a certain number of years or if it is structured another way.

10 year contract: that was two years go.

KelvinHelmholtz 06-30-2021 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by MrIncredible (Post 3257244)
10 year contract: that was two years go.

Hulas will tap out after a few years citing the “pilot shortage” just like he did with TSA

550s will go to Air Whiskey or Mesa

MrIncredible 06-30-2021 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by KelvinHelmholtz (Post 3257265)
Hulas will tap out after a few years citing the “pilot shortage” just like he did with TSA

550s will go to Air Whiskey or Mesa

Hey Kevin. Suck it

MrIncredible 06-30-2021 06:13 PM

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We ain’t going anywhere

KelvinHelmholtz 06-30-2021 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by MrIncredible (Post 3257272)
Hey Kevin. Suck it

Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit. What should I expect from a TSH propagandist

KelvinHelmholtz 06-30-2021 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by MrIncredible (Post 3257297)
We ain’t going anywhere

Where does that say they will always be operated by GoJet?

Gasfiltered 06-30-2021 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by MrIncredible (Post 3257244)
10 year contract: that was two years go.

Each airframe has a 10 year contract, which starts when it gets on property.

threeighteen 06-30-2021 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by Gasfiltered (Post 3257367)
Each airframe has a 10 year contract, which starts when it gets on property.

And each contract has multiple termination clauses.

MrIncredible 07-01-2021 04:47 AM


Originally Posted by threeighteen (Post 3257373)
And each contract has multiple termination clauses.

That can be said to any regional

GearPens 07-01-2021 06:23 AM

Gojet is a SCUM. BAG. AIRLINE. Gotten junior manned 3 times in the last 2 months and they get my pay wrong monthly. Scheduling is the worst of the 3 airlines I've flown for and every time I show up for a trip I get pulled off it leg 1. STAY AWAY!!

idlethrust 07-01-2021 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by GearPens (Post 3257471)
Gojet is a SCUM. BAG. AIRLINE. Gotten junior manned 3 times in the last 2 months and they get my pay wrong monthly. Scheduling is the worst of the 3 airlines I've flown for and every time I show up for a trip I get pulled off it leg 1. STAY AWAY!!

Didnt everyone tell you that dog would bite before you jumped the fence ??

GearPens 07-01-2021 03:54 PM

I made my peace with it, just trying to warn everyone else about this toxic operation. It'd benefit me for others to get on the seniority list but I'm telling anyone that will listen that this is sincerely NOT a good place to work. Just a public service announcement.

Strenyakov 07-04-2021 08:08 PM

Who has the stats? How many pilots lost the last 3 months, how many new hires, how many new planes coming each month? How many make it through training?

If GoJet can't keep up then we won't be here at the end of the summer. Period.

LAXtoDEN 07-04-2021 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by GearPens (Post 3257471)
Gojet is a SCUM. BAG. AIRLINE. Gotten junior manned 3 times in the last 2 months and they get my pay wrong monthly. Scheduling is the worst of the 3 airlines I've flown for and every time I show up for a trip I get pulled off it leg 1. STAY AWAY!!

LMFAO. You really can’t say you weren’t warned.

Av8rPHX 07-04-2021 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by MrIncredible (Post 3257297)
We ain’t going anywhere


Oh,bless your heart. I thought the same thing about Compass….


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GearPens 07-05-2021 06:27 AM

Did I say I wasn't warned? I'm passing on knowledge about current conditions. Move along

Claxstarr 07-06-2021 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by MrIncredible (Post 3257297)
We ain’t going anywhere


So….

“Production of the CRJ700 may be restarted for use by the USA’s Skywest Airlines in a CRJ550 configuration, LNA is told.”

https://leehamnews.com/2021/07/06/ex...yoSp-1xgf_QpnM

Excargodog 07-06-2021 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by Claxstarr (Post 3259751)
So….

“Production of the CRJ700 may be restarted for use by the USA’s Skywest Airlines in a CRJ550 configuration, LNA is told.”

https://leehamnews.com/2021/07/06/ex...yoSp-1xgf_QpnM

Never say never, but restart costs would be non-trivial:


Mitsubishi Heavy Industries discontinued production with the completion of the last of the small backlog it acquired with the June 1, 2019, purchase of the program from the ailing Bombardier. The final 15 CRJ900s were completed during the early months of the COVID-19 pandemic. The Montreal Mirabel Airport production line was shut down. The tooling was removed and stored. The buildings were turned over to Airbus, which now uses them for A220 production.

suffern060 07-06-2021 09:49 AM

Quite honestly the company is playing with fire… and they are going to get burned. They are cancelling flights due to staffing issues and United is noticing. People are doing their homework and realizing that the quality of life and pay is below standard. Meanwhile the company continues to push 50 seat pay rates and say that the pay is “industry standard”…. Good luck with that…

The 550 could go anywhere… it’s nothing more then a 700 with 50 seats and a few pedestals to put bags in… SkyWest could fly them under United or someone else…

The fact of the matter is, at some point G7 will go bye bye… there are no assets for the company to liquidate… that has been done already… All the registrations for the most part are to SkyWest…

It has been widely known for years that the old man has wanted to get out completely for a long time… the best thing that could happen is a acquisition … but I wouldn’t hold my breath on that either…

The ten year contract G7 has means nothing… United wasn’t stupid when they signed it in 2019. They have a escape clause … every contract does.

Until management decides to treat the pilots the way they should be treated… such as not cancelling their vacation and then forcing them to have it paid out and not even give the pilot group the option to reschedule it for a later time, you will continue to see people leave… when the company can no longer attract pilots… that’s when the doors will close because the old man is cheap and doesn’t care.

GojetFires 07-06-2021 11:55 PM

Rumor out of the Willis Tower is that GoJet's 550s are going to Skywest in September or early October. Skywest wants the pilots too, date of hire seniority for pay but date of transfer for bidding, and a 2 year fence. After 2 years nobody will care. This will be a 30% pay increase for the GoJet pilots if it happens.

The rumor continued that Hulas wants more money and says if Skywest just makes newhires out of the pilots and no longeviety it is a better deal for SW and makes the deal more valuable, justifying the higher price. In addition to the GoJet planes, supposedly 50 "new" CRJs going to Skywest and 25 550 to Air Wisconsin.

I can't attest to the accuracy of the rumor but I did shell out $3.13 for a Starbuck's coffee on the corner of Wells and Madison for the information. He offered to show me actual paperwork but that would have cost me a coffee and 2 donuts over at the Dunkin Donuts at 110 W. Madison.

If it all gets signed then it will be a great deal for the GJ pilots. GJ is the best bet out there currently.

cleared4reserve 07-07-2021 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by GojetFires (Post 3260133)
Rumor out of the Willis Tower is that GoJet's 550s are going to Skywest in September or early October. Skywest wants the pilots too, date of hire seniority for pay but date of transfer for bidding, and a 2 year fence. After 2 years nobody will care. This will be a 30% pay increase for the GoJet pilots if it happens.

The rumor continued that Hulas wants more money and says if Skywest just makes newhires out of the pilots and no longeviety it is a better deal for SW and makes the deal more valuable, justifying the higher price. In addition to the GoJet planes, supposedly 50 "new" CRJs going to Skywest and 25 550 to Air Wisconsin.

I can't attest to the accuracy of the rumor but I did shell out $3.13 for a Starbuck's coffee on the corner of Wells and Madison for the information. He offered to show me actual paperwork but that would have cost me a coffee and 2 donuts over at the Dunkin Donuts at 110 W. Madison.

If it all gets signed then it will be a great deal for the GJ pilots. GJ is the best bet out there currently.


GoJet is love, GoJet is life.

RabidW0mbat 07-07-2021 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by GojetFires (Post 3260133)
Rumor out of the Willis Tower is that GoJet's 550s are going to Skywest in September or early October. Skywest wants the pilots too, date of hire seniority for pay but date of transfer for bidding, and a 2 year fence. After 2 years nobody will care. This will be a 30% pay increase for the GoJet pilots if it happens.

The rumor continued that Hulas wants more money and says if Skywest just makes newhires out of the pilots and no longeviety it is a better deal for SW and makes the deal more valuable, justifying the higher price. In addition to the GoJet planes, supposedly 50 "new" CRJs going to Skywest and 25 550 to Air Wisconsin.

I can't attest to the accuracy of the rumor but I did shell out $3.13 for a Starbuck's coffee on the corner of Wells and Madison for the information. He offered to show me actual paperwork but that would have cost me a coffee and 2 donuts over at the Dunkin Donuts at 110 W. Madison.

If it all gets signed then it will be a great deal for the GJ pilots. GJ is the best bet out there currently.

this is by far one of the most beautiful pieces of rumot in the history of APC. Enough plausibility, plays on hopes and dreams of 3 different airlines…bravo sir, bravo.

idlethrust 07-07-2021 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by GojetFires (Post 3260133)
Rumor out of the Willis Tower is that GoJet's 550s are going to Skywest in September or early October. Skywest wants the pilots too, date of hire seniority for pay but date of transfer for bidding, and a 2 year fence. After 2 years nobody will care. This will be a 30% pay increase for the GoJet pilots if it happens.

The rumor continued that Hulas wants more money and says if Skywest just makes newhires out of the pilots and no longeviety it is a better deal for SW and makes the deal more valuable, justifying the higher price. In addition to the GoJet planes, supposedly 50 "new" CRJs going to Skywest and 25 550 to Air Wisconsin.

I can't attest to the accuracy of the rumor but I did shell out $3.13 for a Starbuck's coffee on the corner of Wells and Madison for the information. He offered to show me actual paperwork but that would have cost me a coffee and 2 donuts over at the Dunkin Donuts at 110 W. Madison.

If it all gets signed then it will be a great deal for the GJ pilots. GJ is the best bet out there currently.

I don’t believe a word of it because you can’t get Starbucks coffee for $3.13.😂😂😂😂
Fake news

RabidW0mbat 07-07-2021 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by idlethrust (Post 3260372)
I don’t believe a word of it because you can’t get Starbucks coffee for $3.13.😂😂😂😂
Fake news

with airport discount, maybe a small…but downtown loop, yeah, 5 bucks minimum.

itsmytime 07-07-2021 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by GojetFires (Post 3260133)
Rumor out of the Willis Tower is that GoJet's 550s are going to Skywest in September or early October. Skywest wants the pilots too, date of hire seniority for pay but date of transfer for bidding, and a 2 year fence. After 2 years nobody will care. This will be a 30% pay increase for the GoJet pilots if it happens.

The rumor continued that Hulas wants more money and says if Skywest just makes newhires out of the pilots and no longeviety it is a better deal for SW and makes the deal more valuable, justifying the higher price. In addition to the GoJet planes, supposedly 50 "new" CRJs going to Skywest and 25 550 to Air Wisconsin.

I can't attest to the accuracy of the rumor but I did shell out $3.13 for a Starbuck's coffee on the corner of Wells and Madison for the information. He offered to show me actual paperwork but that would have cost me a coffee and 2 donuts over at the Dunkin Donuts at 110 W. Madison.

If it all gets signed then it will be a great deal for the GJ pilots. GJ is the best bet out there currently.

it’s seems legit. Particularly the part about hulas trying to screw over his pilots, by resetting their pay.

NovemberBravo 07-07-2021 05:23 PM

Wait you all are getting 50 seat pay? What is it? it’s not posted on APC only 700 rates

SevereClear1 07-07-2021 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by NovemberBravo (Post 3260424)
Wait you all are getting 50 seat pay? What is it? it’s not posted on APC only 700 rates

Nope loa when the 550s came out retained 700 pay. We do not have separate pay scales for seats

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KirillTheThrill 07-07-2021 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by itsmytime (Post 3260412)
it’s seems legit. Particularly the part about hulas trying to screw over his pilots, by resetting their pay.

I was laughing way too hard at the part. Hulas be like, “Yeah it’s still going to cost you the same $, let’s just make sure I get more of the $, **** them kids”.

LadyJustice 07-07-2021 10:37 PM

We all focused on that $3.13, which was about right 2 months ago. I was paying just under 3 in the loop but I believe it jumped a dime or so recently.

Hulas believes that regional pilots should work for free because they are going to take their experience and move on to bigger things. Half the pilots are willing to do that. Remember Business Express, Carnival, and Kiwi where people bought their jobs?

itsmytime 07-08-2021 02:23 AM


Originally Posted by LadyJustice (Post 3260503)
We all focused on that $3.13, which was about right 2 months ago. I was paying just under 3 in the loop but I believe it jumped a dime or so recently.

Hulas believes that regional pilots should work for free because they are going to take their experience and move on to bigger things. Half the pilots are willing to do that. Remember Business Express, Carnival, and Kiwi where people bought their jobs?

add gulfstream to that list.


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